Into The Woods Question on "Stay with Me"
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#26Into the Woods
Posted: 12/16/15 at 5:01pmUsually threads derail over time. This one managed to be derailed in one post. Amazing.
broadwayboy223
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/2/14
#27Into the Woods
Posted: 12/16/15 at 5:03pm
Thank you to the people who actually tried to help answer my question. I wish we knew what happened with the Lupone negotiations..
rattleNwoolypenguin
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/11/11
#28Into the Woods
Posted: 12/16/15 at 5:04pm
I really can't believe how many people are so critical of the Into the Woods movie.
It's not even remotely bad. Are there flaws from creative changes? Sure
But that entire cast could sing the damn score and some of the renditions of the songs are top notch, the best that we've ever experienced from any performance of this show
#29Into the Woods
Posted: 12/16/15 at 5:27pm
It's not bad. It's probably the best of the Sondheim film adaptations (ignoring West Side Story), but, like almost very musical film adaptation, all the creative energy and drive that's present onstage got kind of sucked out in the interest of safety. Pretty dully shot, too.
#30Into the Woods
Posted: 12/16/15 at 5:38pm
The cast of the film was great. I have no qualms with that. The first half of the film is great and then it goes to crapville in the second act. Overall, it's an incredibly mediocre film based on a masterpiece musical.
#31Into the Woods
Posted: 12/16/15 at 6:23pm
"broadwayboy223 said: "Thank you to the people who actually tried to help answer my question. I wish we knew what happened with the Lupone negotiations.."
This is all gossip of course but in her SethTV concert she says that it was all "bull****, and Bernadette got it all," I believe it had to do with salary and other requests like top billing.
AEA AGMA SM
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/13/09
#32Into the Woods
Posted: 12/16/15 at 6:44pm
There's also that story that Patti didn't want to play the Witch and was pushing to be cast as Cinderella, which obviously would have factored into negotiations falling apart.
broadwayboy223
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/2/14
#33Into the Woods
Posted: 12/16/15 at 6:52pm
I forgot about that concert! Yes i remember now. If I recall correctly Patti did want to be Cindy but they told her what they wanted Witch. I then believe the way the story was told was that she eventually consented to doing the Witch but negotiations fell through. Are there any Sondheim biographies that cover extensively the process of Into The Woods?
#34Into the Woods
Posted: 12/16/15 at 7:24pm
AEA AGMA SM said: "There's also that story that Patti didn't want to play the Witch and was pushing to be cast as Cinderella, which obviously would have factored into negotiations falling apart."
Yup, Patti has stated this multiple times. They wanted her as the witch, she wanted Cinderella. A mistake on her part, because she would have been a KILLER Witch.
#35Into the Woods
Posted: 12/16/15 at 7:31pm
Phyllis Rogers Stone said: "Settle your twat, Hamilton.
I couldn't have said it any better myself! High 5 Phyllis.....
broadwayboy223
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/2/14
#36Into the Woods
Posted: 12/30/15 at 12:04am
Minor update for those interested : an article i found points toward Buckley being involved in what was a spring two week workshop in 1987. After the tryout and original workshops/readings. https://www.nytimes.com/books/98/07/19/specials/sondheim-tale.html
So it would make sense that Stay with Me could have been written during that two week workshop with Buckley. A tumblr user (I know how bad that sounds LOL) posted this http://muzicalz.tumblr.com/post/93885114025/is-the-witch-from-into-the-woods-a-lesbian-her It basically gives a potential reason for Buckley's departure. The Witch was originally written as a lesbian? That strikes me as strange. Though Buckley's refusal to play the role how Lapine wanted it could have been the deciding factor to fire her/she quit. But by all accounts Buckley was involved in the last workshop before Bernadette came in. I know there is an audio floating around claiming that its the first reading in 1985 with Betty but the NYT article doesn't correlate with that.
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