Into the Woods lyric
Into the Woods lyric
#0Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 10:53pm
Ever notice this before? I just did about 10 minutes ago lol
In the show "Into the Woods" Cinderella's Prince and the Wolf (both played by the same actor) both say the line "one would be so boring"
in one situation the wolf is trying to eat little red riding hood, or, metaphorically,(in my interpretation of it) rape her.
(from "Hello, Little Girl)
LRRH:
Mother said,
"Come what may,
Follow the path
And never stray."
WOLF:
Just so, little girl-
Any path.
So many worth exploring.
Just one would be so boring.
And look what you're ignoring..."
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and in the other, Cinderella's Prince is trying to persuade the Baker's wife to have sex with him
CINDERELLA'S PRINCE:
Days are made of moments,
All are worth exploring.
Many kinds of moments-
None is worth ignoring.
All we have are moments,
Memories for storing.
One would be so boring
BAKER'S WIFE
But this is not right!
CINDERELLA'S PRINCE
Right and wrong don't matter in the woods,
Only feelings.
Let us meet the moment unblushed."
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interesting, no?
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#1re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 10:54pmThat's the genius of Sondheim for you. I believe there are a few other such parallels in INTO THE WOODS.
BlueWizard's blog: The Rambling Corner
HEDWIG: "The road is my home. In reflecting upon the people whom I have come upon in my travels, I cannot help but think of the people who have come upon me."
#2re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 10:56pmWell, they both are have pretty much the same melody, and maybe Sondheim needed something that rhymed with "storing"
#3re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 11:00pm
"That's the genius of Sondheim for you. I believe there are a few other such parallels in INTO THE WOODS."
God, I love it. Do you remember the other parallels? I'd really like to know them.
"No two shows are alike in the making. Each show is a living
piece of your life in a small unreal world with its own character
and integrity; its own new set of memorable experiences and
incredible happenings. You begin to love and adapt to its strangeness.
Dreams harden into substance. Values come into focus. You wish
it would never end. The dream world vanishes like mist before a
rising sun; part of you vanishes with it. And back you land in the
real world with a thud- fogged, uneasy, jittery, difficult to get
along with. There is only one cure. A new show. A new, small
unreal world; new visions, experiences, incredible happenings.
Again you love it, adapt to it, wish it would never end.
But end it does. Another part of you vanishes.
That's show business."-Anonymous
#4re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 11:02pm
Maybe he got lazy.
Even G-d got lazy....a day of rest? Please.
Kringas
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/05
#5re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 11:04pmIt's not laziness. Originally, those roles were written for the same actor. The Act Two lyrics is drawing a parallel to the Act One lyric and showing that the Prince is still just a wolf.
"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey
#6re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 11:05pmI can't recall any parallels right now (however, I just had a martini), but what has always fascinated me about INTO THE WOODS is that all the songs are set up as lessons. Most of the songs have the lyric, "I know things now" or "Now I understand," or something to that effect. The characters come out at the end of the song having learned something that changes their outlook on life.
BlueWizard's blog: The Rambling Corner
HEDWIG: "The road is my home. In reflecting upon the people whom I have come upon in my travels, I cannot help but think of the people who have come upon me."
#7re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 11:06pm
I think Sondheim was saying we should respect Wolves - becasue one day they will rule us all.
Very foward thinker, that Sondheim.
Kringas
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/05
#8re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 11:08pmLet us all bow down to our wolf overlords
"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey
#9re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 11:10pm
That's all I'm sayin'!
Show them wolves the respect they deserve!
Kringas
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/05
#10re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 11:16pmOh, howl I'll show 'em
"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey
Jazzysuite82
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/6/05
#12re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 11:25pmactually that second lyric sung by the Prince isn't really in the show. It was created to make a more complete song for the Moments in the Woods sequence. As brilliant as it is, it isn't in the stage version.
Kringas
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/05
#13re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 11:33pm
"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey
Updated On: 8/9/05 at 11:33 PM
#14re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 11:40pmjazzysuite is right. I'm listening to the revival right now and no where in the song is that line. weird. Where did you get those lyrics then?
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Kringas
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#15re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 11:41pmThey're on the OCR. Several on the songs have more lyrics.
"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey
GovernorSlaton
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#16re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 11:41pmCinderella's Prince and the Wolf were originally played by the same actor. The two characters fit together in that they both represent raw male sexuality. Hello Little Girl and Any Moment both have a male seducing a female, and so the two songs are tied by the line "One would be so boring". Both female characters have a song of realization following the seduction.
#17re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 11:42pm
Haha Kringas.
That took a little - but I got it.
#18re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 11:46pmThere's also lots of musical connections. The first five notes in Rapunzel's song are the same notes played when the Baker hands over the beans to Jack. Also, they are the notes of "Don't you know what's out..." in "Stay With Me." They probably crop up some other places, too.
Jazzysuite82
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/6/05
#19re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 11:49pmYeah that's called developing musical themes to create a cohesive, cogent score that doesn't fall apart at the seams.
#20re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 11:50pm
The show is full of them.
The biggest is the recurring five-note motif that starts the show. It's Rapunzel's repetitive song, you hear it when the Baker gives Jack the beans, it's worked into the Witch's songs, both versions of "Agony," "Your Fault," "Giants in the Sky," "I Know Things Now," "Steps at the Palace" and I'm sure some other spots, too.
The other is the "sensitive, clever, well-mannered, considerate" that the prince sings about himself in "Agony." The Baker's Wife repeats the phrase and notes in "It Takes Two." She also asks the same line about the Prince in "He's a Very Nice Prince" in the OBCR, but that line was cut when the song was shortened, just like the "one would be so boring" line.
I know there are others. They'll come to me later.
Kringas
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/05
#21re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/9/05 at 11:51pm
Haha Kringas.
That took a little - but I got it.
Yay. I was pleased with myself. Glad you got it. 
"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey
Jon
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/20/04
#23re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/10/05 at 7:29am
AND NOW... THE SECRET OF THE "BEAN MOTIF"
...the five-note theme that recurs throughout ITW.
Calvin listed most of the places it is heard - but here is a secret revealed by Sondheim:
The phrase "people make mistakes" in NO ONE IS ALONE is the "bean theme" turned "upside down"! To explain:
Let's say the "bean theme" starts on "C". The second note is down a fifth to F. The next note is up a step to G. Next is down a third to E. Finally, you go down a step to D.
If you start "children make mistakes" on C, you go UP a fifth to G, then DOWN a step to F, then UP a third to A, finally UP a step to F.
In other words, the intervals are the same, just in the opposite diection.
And that's why Sondheim is a genius!
AngusN
Broadway Star Joined: 3/23/05
#24re: Into the Woods lyric
Posted: 8/10/05 at 7:40amWell done Kringas, you deserve the proverbial 'pat on the back' for that. I can't understand why several of the people were participating in the conversation, when they didn't understand what the heck was being discussed.
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