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Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
#75Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/10/16 at 3:31pm
Tom5 said: "Yup. My Bad. But without melody (music?) there will always be a ceiling of quality"
How is that?
When you explain that, perhaps you can also address how you define melody, since at first blush it appears "cramped."
#76Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/10/16 at 3:44pm
songanddanceman2 said: "I think it's hype is overrated."
Isn't that how hype works?!
#77Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/10/16 at 6:07pm
NZBOY2 said: "I think actually the musical might be too intelligent for some"
I think some people might be too intelligent for this musical. If 10 words on 1 note get you excited that is all a matter of taste and the level of mental development musically.
#78Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/10/16 at 6:38pm
Dave28282 said: "I think some people might be too intelligent for this musical. If 10 words on 1 note get you excited that is all a matter of taste and the level of mental development musically."
Care to supply some evidence to support that nonsense? Seems to me that a lot of people generally regarded as extremely intelligent musically or otherwise have embraced the show. That doesn't mean you shouldn't hate it, but your comment strikes me as too precious by half.
#79Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/10/16 at 6:44pm
That was just a reply to the "intelligence posts". You should read it with a wink eye. I should have added one.
Off topic: About the racist posts of Gypsy and aaaa15, I am not racist. I am the opposite. I notice what keeps racism intact. I think that constant ethnic profiling creates gaps and racism. If you don't understand that, you do have an intelligence problem.
NZBOY2
Understudy Joined: 8/30/16
#80Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/10/16 at 7:36pm
Lin has starred in two Pulitzer nominated musicals. One of which won the award. He clearly has talent. I do not mind negative comment on Hamilton. I hate bull**** though. And Dave is full of it.
Furthermore You should see Color Purple , Wicked, Book of Mormon and they all make Hamilton look like Shakespeare.
aaaaaa15
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/31/15
#81Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/10/16 at 8:12pmDave you think anyone that likes rap or R&B music is brainwashed. Enough said.
bear88
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/26/16
#82Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/10/16 at 8:42pm
Who wrote this? (I ran across it when looking to see what people thought of Hamilton in its early days.)
It needs a lot of cutting. The book drags on with too much narrative, and too much of little interest. It's heartfelt, polished, and has some effective moments . The rapping offers some clever bits, but it's more often than not fatiguing. The music is listenable but unmemorable. Lots of movement and dance try to inject some liveliness into the proceedings, but can't prevent interest from flagging over the course of a three hour historical biography that really doesn't cry out for musicalization.
Ben Franklin in Paris was far more enjoyable.
The cast was fine. Brian d'Arcy James scored many needed laughs in his brief moments on stage.
It's After Eight, who apparently saw the show in previews at the Public back in January 2015. This is hardly a rave review, but it's strikingly balanced. "It's heartfelt, polished, and has some effective moments"? Praise for the cast? Some clever rapping? I hardly recognized this reaction, a thoughtful pan of a show in pre-Broadway previews, compared to the venom spit about it on multiple threads after it became a runaway hit.
As for the OP's original question, I agree with everyone who says this show might not be for him, and certainly not worth paying a premium to see. There are many things to do to gain more appreciation for the show's virtues, and I'm admittedly a big admirer, but not everyone wants to do all that much work to prepare for a night at the theater.
I do think, based on many comments from others, that Hamilton can be an acquired taste. It doesn't grab many people on first listen. Some of those people never change their minds. Others became huge fans. It's a matter of taste and personal opinion.
As for me, I do think that while the score is the show, the experience is definitely enhanced in person. There's just a lot happening, and certain songs - "Satisfied" is an obvious example - really stand out in the theater. Other songs that don't seem like anything special work very well in the context of the show, with the lighting, the choreography, the performances.
But if you don't like the score, at all, you're probably not going to like the musical.
#83Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/10/16 at 9:35pm
Is this a new racist Dave or the same one with different numbers?
NZBOY2
Understudy Joined: 8/30/16
#84Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/10/16 at 9:53pm
Rent has words with many meanings as does Hamilton. I cam confused why you would think these are funny. Hamilton wanted his shot as in chance at becoming big. He got his shot a bullet though. I am not saying this is hard to get or understand. But seriously amateurish.
I think Dave should stay far far away from contemporary theater and watch classical theater.
#85Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/10/16 at 10:20pm
same dave different numbers
"Contentment, it seems, simply happens. It appears accompanied by no bravos and no tears."
#86Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/10/16 at 10:38pm
bear88 said: "It's After Eight."
now everyone can understand why it is a posturing troll, unworthy of serious attention.
#87Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/11/16 at 5:40am
haterobics said: "Is this a new racist Dave or the same one with different numbers?"
Can you please, for once in your life, stop thinking in race? Thank you.
aaaaaa15
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/31/15
#88Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/11/16 at 9:52amSome people don't have that privilege.
#89Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/11/16 at 10:52am
one cannot reason with a racist. the purpose in calling out racism is for the benefit of others.
#90Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/11/16 at 12:42pm
Calling out differences in races whenever you can doesn't benefit anyone.
But if you're done with your daily portion of reintroducing apartheid, we can go back on topic now.
Yes, Lin was the composer, lyricist and leading man, I would say that only the lyrics are reasonably good at times (the only real talent). I listened to the cast album again this morning and noticed how many more lines are sung completely on 1 note. It is quite bizarre. The whole verse of "my shot" is all 1 note. Like how on earth can anyone think that has anything to do with composing? Also "When he was 10 his father spil, full of it, debt-ridden....etc, and "France is following us to re-vo-lu-tion.....etc). It has nothing to do with melodies or being on key. It's just posturing and speaking in an affected way. It's just plain boring to me.
France is following us to revol
#91Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/11/16 at 12:50pm
Mmm, I can't edit my post. Is that only possible after a certain number of posts?
Anyway, I wanted to add that clearly robotic speaking on 1 note is not boring for everyone. I guess it is a matter of taste but I can't help but wonder what they are used to then. If I hear mainstreet music like Rihanna's "work" or Kanye West's newest masterpiece it might help me understand the cause a bit more.
#92Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/11/16 at 1:14pm
as i said before you know nothing about rap or hip hop. that type of singing is common in rap. clearly it isn't for you.
"Contentment, it seems, simply happens. It appears accompanied by no bravos and no tears."
Tom5
Broadway Star Joined: 9/23/11
#93Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/11/16 at 4:13pm
I think saying a "musical" without melody can be great is like saying a comedy without humor can be great. P.S. I liked RENT a lot and I respected Larsen enormously because it was clear he valued real music in his compositions and when he hit with some numbers it was enormously powerful.
#94Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/11/16 at 4:47pm
Dave28282 said: "Can you please, for once in your life, stop thinking in race? Thank you."
You first.
#95Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/11/16 at 5:45pm
Tom5 said: "I think saying a "musical" without melody can be great is like saying a comedy without humor can be great. P.S. I liked RENT a lot and I respected Larsen enormously because it was clear he valued real music in his compositions and when he hit with some numbers it was enormously powerful."
What are you babbling about? Did someone say there is no melody? We see what you are trying to do: you start with the notion that you don't like the melody, and then race to the conclusion that there is no melody. Guess what? flawed premise, flawed conclusion. And what is this "real music" nonsense? Hate on the show all you want, but don't be so transparently foolish.
Tom5
Broadway Star Joined: 9/23/11
#96Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/11/16 at 5:53pm
You spend too much time on this board.
#97Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/11/16 at 6:26pm
Tom5 said: "You spend too much time on this board."
ooooooo great retort lol
i'll take that as an acknowledgement you were off base
NZBOY2
Understudy Joined: 8/30/16
#98Is Score of Hamilton Better in Context of the Show?
Posted: 9/11/16 at 11:08pm
At least I can base my thoughts from seeing the show at rr theatre
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