Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See- Page 2
Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
witchoftheeast2
Featured Actor Joined: 9/25/24
#25Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 11:45am
I would like to agree with the point that theater is a luxury item, something you save for, and you might not be able to see a very popular show for many years. Even if it has been around for 10+ years, like Wicked or Hamilton, people just have other priorities to focus on. Saying "it's been around for years" is not a valid argument here. You never know someones financial status, or what they have to cut out due to their budget. Again, can someone please tell me what you expected the ticket prices to be?
#26Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 11:52am
Jay Lerner-Z said: "I don't get how Lin Manuel Miranda, supposedly a champion of the working classes, the ordinary man and woman, can justify such impossible prices. Can Usnavi afford this? The celebrated diversity of this show, to portray the real America, the average Joe etc. Hm, can we revoke the Kennedy Center Honor?"
Honestly? Usnavi would have gone to the free One Night In Miami screening at the United Palace in Washington Heights, where Lin-Manuel Miranda brought Leslie Odom Jr. out to sing a Hamilton song.
While I just missed seeing most of the original cast, I've won the $10 lottery twice in the past decade and seen original cast members in person singing Hamilton songs for free in numerous in-person contexts.
Overall, obviously Broadway prices are out of control, but Miranda has done a lot to make theater accessible and this is Odom Jr.'s signature role. He should be getting paid a significant premium over whatever his salary was 10 years ago.
SteveSanders
Featured Actor Joined: 3/29/25
#27Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 11:54am
Yes, some people would need to save up for Hamilton tickets regardless of pricing much as people do for trips to Disney, a concert, et al.
My point is saying it has been around for 10 years was that people have had ample time to do such saving if they want to see the show live, either on Broadway or a touring cast. It's not as if they have faced the current more prohibitive pricing for Odom's return for the past decade.
And if that saving still was not possible for some, they were just able to see if in the theater or they could stream it live very affordably.
#28Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 11:56am
Jay Lerner-Z said: "I don't get how Lin Manuel Miranda, supposedly a champion of the working classes, the ordinary man and woman, can justify such impossible prices. Can Usnavi afford this? "
The day this was announced I got center orchestra seats (not even rear center, I believe they're row G) for $250. I paid more for worse seats at Sunset Boulevard in February. They're only expensive now bc most of the shows are nearly if not completely sold out.
#29Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 11:58am
Witchoftheeast, theatre is absolutely NOT a luxury item. Perhaps arguable a lavish Broadway musical is, not that Hamilton is particularly lavish, but theatre as a whole is not. That's like saying books are a luxury item. They are a life essential. You do make me wonder if this is another impact of these scandalous prices. People considering theatre as a once-in-a-blue-moon event. Sad.
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#30Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 12:04pm
SteveSanders, it's been running ten years, sure. What good is that to a 20 year old coming to Manhattan for the first time?
Jonathan, his efforts to make it more accessible are admirable, but the price of tickets far outweigh any good they've done. Obviously it is not ALL his fault. Usnavi would have a seen a screening, but could he afford the actual show?
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Bwaygurl2
Broadway Star Joined: 3/8/22
#31Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 12:44pm
What harm is done if a 20 year old can't see Odom in Hamilton? There are so many other wonderful options with affordable ticket in new York and the rest of the country. We could complain about tickets for one specific show with one specific star or we could celebrate all of the affordable options.
#32Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 12:50pm
Celebrating all of the affordable options is a great idea. Make Off-Broadway eligible for the Tonys, please. With prices like these, it is no longer deserving of special status.
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gibsons2
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/26/19
#33Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 12:58pm
Bwaygurl2 said: "What harm is done if a 20 year old can't see Odom in Hamilton? There are so many other wonderful options with affordable ticket in new York and the rest of the country. We could complain about tickets for one specific show with one specific star or we could celebrate all of the affordable options."
Fully agree with this statement. Also, I don't remember the fans of Leslie lining up to see him in Purlie Victorious. It was a very easy and cheap rush or lottery ticket. I'll never understand this sudden obsession with seeing him in Hamilton and willingness to pay half of Manhattan rent for a ticket. Good for Hamilton grosses and Leslie's paycheck, but come on...
SteveSanders
Featured Actor Joined: 3/29/25
#34Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 12:59pm
Jay Lerner-Z said: "SteveSanders, it's been running ten years, sure. What good is that to a 20 year old coming to Manhattan for the first time?"
I'd forgotten how exhausting you are.
A 20-year-old coming to Manhattan for the first time could have already watched the show via streaming, seen it more affordably via a tour stop, or other than this period with Odom's return, could see it for the same price as most other Broadway hits. None of that would have been possible during the first year, two, maybe even three of the Broadway production.
JSquared2
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/23/17
#35Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 1:02pm
Jay Lerner-Z said: "Celebrating all of the affordable options is a great idea. Make Off-Broadway eligible for the Tonys, please. With prices like these, it is no longer deserving of special status."
WTF??
#36Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 1:03pm
Streaming isn't theatre.
This is about more than Leslie's current stint. The average Broadway price is soared out of the price range for too many people. Sorry that exhausts you.
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Bwaygurl2
Broadway Star Joined: 3/8/22
#37Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 1:04pm
Jay Lerner-Z said: "Celebrating all of the affordable options is a great idea. Make Off-Broadway eligible for the Tonys, please. With prices like these, it is no longer deserving of special status."
I notice you didn't answer my question.
Nevermind. I was foolish to engage with you. You aren't interested in rational conversation. You are just emotional. You are angry that producers are making more money than you think they should. Since you aren't in charge of the world you will simply have to live with it.
SteveSanders
Featured Actor Joined: 3/29/25
#38Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 1:05pm
Jay Lerner-Z said: "Streaming isn't theatre.
This is about more than Leslie's current stint. The average Broadway price is soared out of the price range for too many people. Sorry that exhausts you."
This thread is literally titled for Leslie Odom's stint, so my comments are more on topic than many of yours.
Maybe go back to the Off Topic board where you are able to reign supreme.
#39Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 1:06pm
"WTF?"
It's quite simple. Good theatre is good theatre. The size of the auditorium is irrelevant.
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#40Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 1:35pm
Jay Lerner-Z said: "Theatre is absolutely NOT a luxury item. Perhaps arguable a lavish Broadway musical is, not that Hamilton is particularly lavish, but theatre as a whole is not. That's like saying books are a luxury item. They are a life essential."
People can't afford groceries, arts funding is being cut by the Trump administration, and we're arguing that the problem is that the most popular show on Broadway right now, which has been beautifully filmed and released for the public to stream for only $16, isn't more affordable? Really??
I agree Broadway has gotten expensive, but so has nearly everything else in this country. Also, there are still affordable options available in NY; just fewer of them are on Broadway. To use your book analogy, it's like complaining that the special edition hardcover book that was just released isn’t affordable when you’re standing right next to a public library — the experience is still accessible, you just need to look beyond the flashiest shelf.
Frankly, a lot of the stuff I see off-Broadway is more creative and interesting than the stuff on Broadway anyway. God forbid a teenager has to go see something for $20 at Atlantic Theatre Co. because they've been priced out of Mamma Mia. What will we ever do if the children can only attend one of the Joseph Papp Free Performances at the Public instead of seeing Wicked?
witchoftheeast2
Featured Actor Joined: 9/25/24
#41Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 1:41pm
SteveSanders said: "Yes, some people would need to save up for Hamilton tickets regardless of pricing much as people do for trips to Disney, a concert, et al.
My point is saying it has been around for 10 years was that people have had ample time to do such saving if they want to see the show live, either on Broadway or a touring cast. It's not as if they have faced the current more prohibitive pricing for Odom's return for the past decade.
And if that saving still was not possible for some, they were just able to see if in the theater or they could stream it live very affordably."
And I also addressed that. People have other priorities, other than a musical on a streaming service or tour. While it may seem like a priority to people on this board, I bet if you walked around New York, you'd find a least 20 people who have not seen the show or know what it is. And haven't seen it. Why is everyone making excuses? Wicked has also been around for a long time, yes it's been on tour, international productions, but no, that doesn't mean everyone has made it their top priority to see it since 2003. Same with Hamilton. I think theater people live in a bubble and don't realize not everyone signs up for free trials or prioritizes watching proshots as much as we/they do.
Everyone is ignoring my question. What price did you expect these tickets to go for?
witchoftheeast2
Featured Actor Joined: 9/25/24
#42Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 1:44pm
Bwaygurl2 said: "What harm is done if a 20 year old can't see Odom in Hamilton? There are so many other wonderful options with affordable ticket in new York and the rest of the country. We could complain about tickets for one specific show with one specific star or we could celebrate all of the affordable options."
I don't get it either. People act like the world is ending if you don't post bootlegs of shows, and you "hate poor people" if you don't support them. Is there really such a remote part of the world that doesn't have any access to other forms of entertainment?
Sutton Ross
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/20/13
#43Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 1:53pm
Theater is very affordable. Community centers, regional theaters, high school/college productions. Volunteer ushering is fantastic and happens all over the place. Broadway is the best of the best of the best. A true luxury. People will spend what they can afford, and if it's out of your price range? You can't see it. Same with vacations, travel, the list goes on. The entitlement of some people on this board (I deserve to see Othello with the biggest movie star in the world for 35 bux!) is wild to me. Also, judging people wanting to see Leslie again in a Tony award winning role, like why do you care how other people spend their money?
Lin-Manuel Miranda himself saw Rent and he was in the very last row of the theater because it's what he could afford at the time. Same story with Leslie Odom Jr. Business is not difficult to understand nor is capitalism. However, Jay pretending to be obtuse has always been confounding.
#44Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 1:55pm
This thread is starting to get insane, what the frick.
Any who i'm going to my first music festival on Saturday to see My Chemical Romance. Any tips on how not to screw myself over for 13.5 hours in Atlanta?
witchoftheeast2
Featured Actor Joined: 9/25/24
#45Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 2:22pm
Sutton Ross said: "Theater is very affordable. Community centers, regional theaters, high school/college productions. Volunteer ushering is fantastic and happens all over the place. Broadway is the best of the best of the best. A true luxury. People will spend what they can afford, and if it's out of your price range? You can't see it. Same with vacations, travel, the list goes on. The entitlement of some people on this board (I deserve to see Othello with the biggest movie star in the world for 35 bux!) is wild to me. Also, judging people wanting to see Leslie again in a Tony nominated role, like why do you care how other people spend their money?
Lin-Manuel Miranda himself saw Rent and he was in the very last row of the theater because it's what he could afford at the time. Same story with Leslie Odom Jr. Business is not difficult to understand nor is capitalism.However, Jay pretending to be obtuse has always been confounding."
"I must see this show for under $100 and if I don't, you must film it for me otherwise you hate me and poor people who don't live in nyc and can't immediately see whatever show I want" seems to be their thought process. Greedy greedy
Sutton Ross
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/20/13
#46Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 2:28pm
YES! Like the dumb children at Heathers who, when asked politely to stop recording the show, all screeched "YOU ARE GATEKEEPING THEATER!" "ALL THEATER SHOULD BE FREE!" "WE DEMAND A PRO SHOT! WHAAAAA!"
Yeah no. Grow up, work hard, and enjoy what you can afford in the entertainment business.
witchoftheeast2
Featured Actor Joined: 9/25/24
#47Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 2:48pm
Sutton Ross said: "YES! Like the dumb children at Heathers who, when asked politely to stop recording the show, all screeched"YOU AREGATEKEEPING THEATER!" "ALL THEATER SHOULD BE FREE!""WE DEMAND A PRO SHOT! WHAAAAA!"
Yeah no.Grow up, work hard, and enjoy what you can afford in the entertainment business."
"But I want it noooooooooooooooow!! You hate poor people!! I must see LOJ now!!! I must hear every single understudy in [x] role!!! Someone get the audio!!" Sutton you could not be more correct.
#48Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 2:51pm
"I notice you didn't answer my question"
I thought it was a rhetorical question. Since you won't engage with me anymore, I won't answer it now. Shrug.
Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$
witchoftheeast2
Featured Actor Joined: 9/25/24
#49Leslie Odom's Hamilton Return = A Must See
Posted: 9/16/25 at 2:54pm
Jay Lerner-Z said: ""I notice you didn't answer my question"
I thought it was a rhetorical question. Since you won't engage with me anymore, I won't answer it now. Shrug."
My question has been ignored as well
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