Loving You: The Untold Sondheim podcast

Starts March 5 per this article.

"The series, which will begin in March, is a collaboration between the composer Peter E Jones, Sondheim’s archivist and former partner, and the British author, performer and director Martin Milnes."

Oh wow. This will be fascinating... am I right that we know very little about Jones' and Sondheim's breakup? It seems they stayed amicable based on the credits given to him in FINISHING THE HAT, post-breakup.

The score of PASSION is dedicated to him.

I'm about 3/4 through the episode and it has me completely enraptured. It is such a fascinating portait with such interesting tidbits: the Judy/ Liza Gypsy story, to even hearing that recording of a young Steve with Lena Horne. I can't wait for the rest of the series.

It seems Youtube hasn't put it up yet. I tried both the video platform and Music side.

Updated On: 3/5/26 at 03:19 PM

Help! How does one listen to this series? Explain it to me like the Boomer I am, thanks.

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PS: This is absolutely, amazingly interesting. I've always loved Sonheim's work, but I've never read any of the biographies, etc... Because I am a novice in regards to knowledge of any aspects of Sondheim's personal history, EVERYTHING in this podcast is a revaluation for me (I didn't even know that "Sondheim’s close friend, Martin Milnes, and his first love, Peter E Jones" (copied that from a website description) even existed.

I HATE spoilers, but this is not a spoiler. It's just a description- more of a "teaser" than a spoiler. But I'll put in in a spoiler frame anyway:

Updated On: 3/6/26 at 06:31 PM

darquegk said: "It feels like there were three Sondheims: [etc.]

He reminds me much more than I would have expected of another cult hero,"

For me, I'd have stopped there.

darquegk said: "It feels like there were three Sondheims: the “god” with his carefully crafted persona, the relatively conventional for his era gay man, and the enthusiastic, eccentric nerd with a number of spectrum-adjacent traits and quirks.


He reminds me much more than I would have expected of another cult hero, Edward Gorey, who also shared that holy trinity of curated personalities. The one big difference I can think of? Gorey was a technophobe while Sondheim was famously fond of video games."



Gorey is a really interesting comparison I'm surprised to have never heard before.

How I wish we could have got Julie Andrews in a proper Sondheim musical or three or four at some point. Her Desiree in the 80s or 90s, for example."

Never say never. I see no reason why she couldn’t do Madame Armfeldt, opposite my Cate of course.

I wouldn’t mind the meandering if the host didn’t sound like he was reading off a script but trying to make it sound off the cuff. Honestly, just put a microphone to everyone’s mouth and let the stories unfold! They are so lovely to hear. I’m guessing the next episode arrives on Thursday.

Is there a definitive Sondheim biography, in anyone’s opinion? I will add the new one to my reading list, thank you Ravenclaw.

Having read a few of the biographies, this is the most earnest depiction of Sondheim that I have encountered. I’m quite infatuated with it and actually make time for it at night so that I’m not disturbed.

I also love that they’re talking negative of the dead: the way Sondheim would’ve wanted.

There's a fascinating claim in the new episode: that the film "That's Entertainment" was at least partially stolen from Hal Prince's pitch to do a screen version of "Follies" involving reuse of the old Hollywood backlots.