LuPone on McDonald — Page 15

OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "ER765 said: "OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "ER765 said: "WHERE ARE THE MODS?" They deleted my clever ass dialogue response to whitelight static, so they are here for sure lol"


Well it’s time for you to be banned. Or is that racist?"

I mean it's typical of a white person to try to police what makes them uncomfortable so...yes. Banned for what un-evolved soul?"

Isn't that exactly what you are trying to do with Patti LuPone? For way less than the bile you spewed in the last 15 minutes or so alone.

OharaFosseWolfe888 said:

"B-but you're...policing everyone else...and the only one reducing other people to the color of their sk-



Oh, never mind."

I am Black and I will and have always viewed the world, even this lil insane ass message board I have loved for decades through THAT lens. Calling out white supremacy thought, racist ideology, and micro-aggressive action and behaviors is not policing you. Being Black is never ever ever ever a reduction of anything. SH*T is dangerous but it's lit though!!!"



I was talking about the way you insult white people for being born whi-



Oh, never mind.

MayAudraBlessYou2 said: "Perhaps this has been mentioned in the countless posts on this thread, or perhaps not: but there is a letter being circulated and signed by a growing number of Broadway artists who are making demands of the Broadway League and American Theatre Wing against LuPone.

These include:

Disinviting LuPone from the Tonys this year and for several years

Requiring a public apology to Lewis, McDonald, and AEA

Commit to holding artists accountable in upholding the dignity of other industry members

It's currently signed by over 300 names, including some Tony nominees, and growing as we speak. Should be published tomorrow. Very curious if this is something that will actually, finally, get Patti to apologize. She likely won't, but I've never seen folks mobilize like this."

As someone who can agree that Patti's comments were crass, unnecessary, and problematic, I still think that this culture of *demanding* apologies and respect from people is so deeply, deeply disempowering. Not to mention (though less important) that many signatures on demands like this are easy and hollow - and usually result in hollow apologies if they result in apologies at all... We have delved so far into an era where form is prioritized over essence and where self-soothing and even seeking and getting support from people and community who value and validate isn't sufficient. I understand wanting things along the lines of understanding and apology etc. But this is veering into need territory that is super disempowering and, imo, ironically conveying a helplessness rather than a strength.

Updated On: 5/28/25 at 03:55 PM

OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "I am Black. I cannot be racist. I could however be prejudice because words mean things, but I cannot be racist by definition."

I'm really not trying to start anything here, but for the sake of the "words mean things" argument, you absolutely can be racist towards other groups of color that you are not a part of. I agree that reverse racism isn't real, but saying because you're black you can't be racist "by definition" to somebody who is asian (for example) is incorrect. Not what you were saying, etc etc etc, but specificity with words especially when talking about race is super important.

OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "FolliesCabaret said: "OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "I am Black. I cannot be racist. I could however be prejudice because words mean things, but I cannot be racist by definition."

I'm really not trying to start anything here, but for the sake of the "words mean things" argument, you absolutely can be racist towards other groups of color that you are not a part of. I agree that reverse racism isn't real, but saying because you're black you can't be racist "by definition"to somebody who is asian (for example)is incorrect. Not what you were saying, etc etc etc, but specificity with words especially when talking about race is super important."

Okay, I hear you and to be clear I don't think you are trying to start anything at all.Racism isn’t just personal bias thats prejudice— it’s bias backed by institutional, systemic power.It involves the ability to enforce and maintain dominance over another group through laws, policies, media, education, policing, housing, healthcare, etc. In the the good ole usaand many western societies, racism is structured around white supremacy — the historical and ongoing elevation of white people over others.

Black people in the U.S. (and in other white-dominant societies) do not control the systems of power — law enforcement, courts, media narratives, education standards, corporate leadership, political systems — in ways that would allow them to oppress other racial groups.Therefore, while a Black person can hold prejudices, they cannot uphold or benefit from a system of racism designed to favor Black people over others — because such a system does not exist. Is what I mean when I say I am Black I cannot be racist, I can however be prejudice."

None of this is accurate.

OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "Midnight Radio said: "OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "ER765 said: "OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "ER765 said: "WHERE ARE THE MODS?" They deleted my clever ass dialogue response to whitelight static, so they are here for sure lol"


Well it’s time for you to be banned. Or is that racist?"

I mean it's typical of a white person to try to police what makes them uncomfortable so...yes. Banned for what un-evolved soul?"

Isn't that exactly what you are trying to do with Patti LuPone? For way less than the bile you spewed in the last 15 minutes or so alone.

Holding racist behavior accountable is not the same as policing Black bodies and our every action in this country."

This is a THEATER MESSAGE BOARD, not the floor of congress. Social justice warrior culture is so wild.


I’ve seen a lot of “maam, this is a Wendy’s” comments on here before, but yours take the cake.