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[WiCkEDrOcKS]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 9:59am

Also - didn't Glenn and Patti bury the hatchet a while back...? Could've sworn they made up. 

[iluvtheatertrash]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 10:11am

joevitus said: "ACL2006 said: "iluvtheatertrash said: "this forum is clearly not a safe place anymore. Moderators, you have been absolutely pathetic. Do your jobs."

Moderators pick and choose what to delete here. There's really no set of rules. Also assuming the moderators here are likely volunteers and aren't paid."

There are lots of intersting things going on. Supposedly, you aren't allowed to hypthotisize on people's mental state, yet plenty of posts that do this to Patti are still up (and questions of whether she was drunk during the interview). There's no sense to to the moderating.

But frankly, I don't much care. There's actually a comment that this thread is now "unsafe." Exactly who is under some sort of threat from reading these silly posts? I've had more fun reading this thread than anything on this site in some time. Gonna go pop some popcorn than read whatever comes next."

I don’t know what planet you’re from but words can be harmful and words can hurt people. In this thread, we have seen racism, antisemitism, prejudice, misogyny, discussion of war, discussions of drink. All of these things can cause people harm. All of them can trigger something, all of them can simply cause upset. A school where a child is being bullied is not a safe environment for the child, even though those are just words. At a certain point, the toxic of this thread is no longer safe. Perhaps you don’t feel that way. That’s fine. Keep spewing your bile instead.

[Kelley10]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 10:14am

PIG!

[MB124]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 10:15am

Kelley10 said: "PIG!"

We heard you.

[MsPiety&Rectitude]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 10:16am

iluvtheatertrash said:

I don’t know what planet you’re from but words can be harmful and words can hurt people. In this thread, we have seen racism, antisemitism, prejudice, misogyny, discussion of war, discussions of drink. All of these things can cause people harm. All of them can trigger something, all of them can simply cause upset. A school where a child is being bullied is not a safe environment for the child, even though those are just words. At a certain point, the toxic of this thread is no longer safe. Perhaps you don’t feel that way. That’s fine. Keep spewing your bile instead."

A kid has to go to school. You don’t have to read this thread and are free to log off at any time.

[Sally Durant Plummer]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 10:24am

"Discussions of drink."

[morosco]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 10:25am

The War of the Roses.

[joevitus]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 10:36am

iluvtheatertrash said: "joevitus said: "ACL2006 said: "iluvtheatertrash said: "this forum is clearly not a safe place anymore. Moderators, you have been absolutely pathetic. Do your jobs."

Moderators pick and choose what to delete here. There's really no set of rules. Also assuming the moderators here are likely volunteers and aren't paid."

There are lots of intersting things going on. Supposedly, you aren't allowed to hypthotisize on people's mental state, yet plenty of posts that do this to Patti are still up (and questions of whether she was drunk during the interview). There's no sense to to the moderating.

But frankly, I don't much care. There's actually a comment that this thread is now "unsafe." Exactly who is under some sort of threat from reading these silly posts? I've had more fun reading this thread than anything on this site in some time. Gonna go pop some popcorn than read whatever comes next."

I don’t know what planet you’re from but words can be harmful and words can hurt people. In this thread, we have seen racism, antisemitism, prejudice, misogyny, discussion of war, discussions of drink. All of these things can cause people harm. All of them can trigger something, all of them can simply cause upset. A school where a child is being bullied is not a safe environment for the child, even though those are just words. At a certain point, the toxic of this thread is no longer safe. Perhaps you don’t feel that way. That’s fine. Keep spewing your bile instead."

Once again, how are you not safe? How are you threatened? 

[BringBackBirdie]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 10:43am

She's a witch!

[Mickey3309]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 10:51am

MsPiety&Rectitude said: "iluvtheatertrash said:

I don’t know what planet you’re from but words can be harmful and words can hurt people. In this thread, we have seen racism, antisemitism, prejudice, misogyny, discussion of war, discussions of drink. All of these things can cause people harm. All of them can trigger something, all of them can simply cause upset. A school where a child is being bullied is not a safe environment for the child, even though those are just words. At a certain point, the toxic of this thread is no longer safe. Perhaps you don’t feel that way. That’s fine. Keep spewing your bile instead."

A kid has to go to school. You don’t have to readthis thread and are free to log off at any time."

@MsPiety&Rectitude Spot on. @iluvtheatertrash - genuinely agree with you that some of what's been posted on here is ugly and pointed and, while it's probably no consolation, I'm sorry for that. But I think your concept of safe/unsafe in this case is very disempowering. It’s not unlike the rampant, similarly disempowering use of “gaslighting.” If you have the power to leave spaces you perceive as toxic or hurtful and find comfort, validation, support, community, unity etc in more fitting spaces or relationships - I urge you to recognize the power in that - - the ways you have relative control over feeling safe. Feeling safer is accessible to you. The same way that, as long one continues to hold faith in their reality, perception, POV - one is not being gaslit. Accusing people of gaslighting when you are still holding faith and certainty in your reality is disempowering. I long for more and more people to wake up to this empowering, self-respectful reality. 
 

Updated On: 5/28/25 at 10:51 AM

[iluvtheatertrash]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 11:26am

Mickey3309 said: "MsPiety&Rectitude said: "iluvtheatertrash said:

I don’t know what planet you’re from but words can be harmful and words can hurt people. In this thread, we have seen racism, antisemitism, prejudice, misogyny, discussion of war, discussions of drink. All of these things can cause people harm. All of them can trigger something, all of them can simply cause upset. A school where a child is being bullied is not a safe environment for the child, even though those are just words. At a certain point, the toxic of this thread is no longer safe. Perhaps you don’t feel that way. That’s fine. Keep spewing your bile instead."

A kid has to go to school. You don’t have to readthis thread and are free to log off at any time."

@MsPiety&Rectitude Spot on. @iluvtheatertrash - genuinely agree with you that some of what's been posted on here is ugly and pointedand, while it's probably no consolation, I'm sorry for that. But I think your concept of safe/unsafe in this caseisvery disempowering. It’s not unlike the rampant, similarly disempowering use of “gaslighting.” If you have the power to leave spaces you perceive as toxic or hurtful and find comfort, validation, support, community, unity etc in more fitting spaces or relationships - I urge you to recognize the power in that - - the ways you have relative control over feeling safe. Feeling safer is accessible to you. The same way that, as long one continues to hold faith in their reality, perception, POV - one is not being gaslit. Accusing people of gaslighting when you are still holding faith and certainty in your reality is disempowering. I long for more and more people to wake up to this empowering, self-respectfulreality.
"

we live in a world where we need trigger warnings before movies and books and plays and musicals because people have trauma. Because people struggle with certain issues. Those trigger warnings help people have a safe environment. Using horrible language repeatedly in dehumanizing people does not create a safe environment.

 

in all honesty, this place has become so toxic over the last few years that I think I’ve seen enough now. Some of you revel in cruelty and mean spiritedness. Some of you don’t have enough integrity to call it out when you see it from others. And some of us just shouting into the void saying hey, why don’t you knock it off as the behavior continues in the moderators do nothing. No, this is not a safe environment for Black people. That’s very very clear. This is not a safe environment for Jews right now, that’s also very clear. This also isn’t a safe environment for people who just don’t do well with toxic, hateful behavior. 

 

I’ve been a member for a long time here. But there’s a reason why all of the other theater chat boards talk about this one with such distain. It’s not the layout. It’s not the website. It’s the people posting. It’s all of you. And me. It’s us.

 

I’m out. tear out each other all you want. It’s toxic. And every single minute you continue to participate in it, you, too, are toxic. 👋 

[BJR]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 11:34am

I think the mention of Hal Prince in the interview, and how she spent the morning ruminating over the slights from him is quite the tell. If she can be literally by herself upset over a man who is dead, then it's no surprise she doesn't want to put the conflict with Glenn to rest, or tries to throw her weight around and intimidate Lewis, or couldn't fake say something nice about Audra. Sadly, she has a negativity bias that only sees conflict and persecution. 

And I think yes, as noted by BrodyFosse, outspoken people tend to get more unfiltered in their later years. Combine it all and no, I don't think she gets the racial nuances of parts of this.

[Bwaygurl2]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 11:35am

Some of y'all are stuck on Left Academia phrases like "safe spaces" and "micro-aggressions" like it's still 2014. Normal people hate this stuff.

[Kelley10]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 11:43am

Yes I did. You've heard of Peppa Pig? This is her great grandmother Patti Pig.

[EvanstonDad]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 11:44am

I'm going to be legit upset when this chat finally peters out.

[BringBackBirdie]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 11:53am

Not the friendliest woman in the world!

*Said she never saw "In Transit"- funny I saw her in the audience loving it

*Referred to her savior Christopher Reeve as "the dead guy"

*Insensitively remarked she had never heard of Telly Leung

[Mickey3309]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 11:55am

iluvtheatertrash said: we live in a world where we need trigger warnings before movies and books and plays and musicals because people have trauma. Because people struggle with certain issues. Those trigger warnings help people have a safe environment. Using horrible language repeatedly in dehumanizing people does not create a safe environment.

I’m out. tear out each other all you want. It’s toxic. And every single minute you continue to participate in it, you, too, are toxic. 👋"

 - - - @iluvtheatertrash: "Those trigger warnings help people have a safe environment." - - - 

THOSE TRIGGER WARNINGS HIGHLIGHT/GIVE PEOPLE THE OPTION TO LEAVE/NOT PARTICIPATE IN THING THAT MIGHT FEEL TRIGGERING! Trigger warnings actually make/confirm the point we are trying to make! They, in addition to giving notice, spotlight your ability to not participate or find a space that feels safer! Trigger warnings are meant to direct people's attention to the self-empowering, free will option we are talking about! Trigger warnings don't shut things down - they remind people of an empowering ability to choose something for themselves.

I mean, honestly and with no sarcasm, bravo. You are now doing exactly what I (and some others of us) are talking about. You are saying "I'm out" while holding onto your reality that this board and its participants are toxic. Others see the "safety" thing differently and will hold onto that personal reality. This move is far more empowering than conveying a need or demand that a space or conversation that you are not at all bound to be shut down. Give yourself more credit!

Updated On: 5/28/25 at 11:55 AM

[TotallyEffed]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 11:56am

Kelley10 said: "Yes I did. You've heard of Peppa Pig? This is her great grandmother Patti Pig."


mama you ate with that one

[OharaFosseWolfe888]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 2:12pm

Wow, full day and missed nothing. Y'all even troll and joke horribly. Where would anything be without the brilliance and humor of Black people. These unseasoned ass jokes y'all telling up and down this thread L.O.L. Still denying the basics of the situation. 

In any event, if y'all actually care about "what's happening", as I said yesterday, this is not dying down or going anywhere. PL crossed a line that unfortunately will have heavy implications on her legacy for the rest of her life. Being difficult...a brassy bold woman who speaks her mind, is one thing. Actors are posting stories of her bullying backstage. De'Adre Aziza posted about her bullying SRS during Women on the Verge, just to name one. She will now be known definitively as racist and thought of as one by the Black entertainment industry (not just Broadway) and also the Culture. (there are people who didn't know who patti or Audra were before yesterday, who now ONLY know her for this) To actively choose to do this at the end of your career and make it a staple of your legacy is a choice and there will be consequences. All major publications and especially one of the oldest Black magazine's Essence have picked up the story. Berniece King posted given Audra her flowers. This is a watershed kinda moment. So 2020 someone said? You must don't know the power of Black people and community. 

The League and the Theatre Wing are currently being asked by a quickly overwhelming group of artists and creatives to remove her from the Tony Nominating Committee and invalidate any votes she may have already sent it. She has shown public racist bias amongst nominees and many other things that invalidates her from being a voter. Argue on this thread all you want, the dominos are falling and they have real life consequences. 

Audra leaned in deeper last night still excavating that searing performance and humbly as always received the love she is so rightly due. Kecia is surrounded by the future of Broadway, her cast and community keeping her hella uplifted, she received her Grammy in the mail and posted on IG and walked the streets with Malik Yoba yesterday celebrating all the Black women on 44th street leading shows Gypsy,SB,Boop, Purpose, and HK. A historical moment for sure. (lol she also mentioned Nicole S., she's not Black which was funny but Rashidra is so her point was still made.) Every day is Black history. 

Updated On: 5/28/25 at 02:12 PM

[binau]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 2:26pm

OharaFosseWolfe888, I decided to look at De'Adre Aziza's instagram story and I can see that the claim is Patti called Sherie Rene Scott a bitch. Well, last time I checked Sherie had white skin. It is obvious that Patti is not a racist - Patti is just Patti. She is only called a racist because she called a black person a bitch instead of a white person a bitch this time and we apparently hold different standards for how a white woman can talk to a white woman vs a black woman. I guess Patti is from a different era where she treats PEOPLE as PEOPLE by the content of their character, not by the colour of their skin as it seems people prefer to do today. 

Anyway, if you've all successfully cancelled Patti - whatever. It's the end of her career and she can have the last laugh when Audra loses the Tony. 

Updated On: 5/28/25 at 02:26 PM

[verywellthensigh]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 2:26pm

Um...I was under the impression that most of this board agrees that Patti is the a-hole in this situation?  Maybe more reading comprehension and less BIG OUTRAGED REACTIONS and people would take you more seriously around here. 

[Midnight Radio]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 2:28pm

What racist thing did she say? We'll wait.

[abcd12]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 2:29pm

OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "Wow, full day and missed nothing. Y'all even troll and joke horribly. Where would anything be without the brilliance and humor of Black people. These unseasoned ass jokes y'all telling up and down this thread L.O.L. Still denying the basics of the situation.

In any event, if y'all actually care about "what's happening", as I said yesterday, this is not dying down or going anywhere. PL crossed a line that unfortunately will have heavy implications on her legacy for the rest of her life.Being difficult...a brassy bold woman who speaks her mind, is one thing. Actors are posting stories of her bullying backstage. De'Adre Aziza posted about her bullying SRS during Women on the Verge, just to name one. She will nowbeknowndefinitively as racist and thought of as one bythe Black entertainment industry (not just Broadway)and also the Culture. (there are people who didn't know who patti or Audra were before yesterday, who now ONLY know her for this) To actively choose to do thisat the end of your career and make it a stapleof your legacy is a choice and there will be consequences.All major publications and especially one of the oldest Black magazine's Essence have picked up the story. Berniece King posted given Audra her flowers. This is a watershed kinda moment. So 2020 someone said? You must don't know the power of Black people and community.

The League and the Theatre Wing are currently being asked by a quickly overwhelming group of artists and creativesto remove her from the Tony Nominating Committee and invalidate any votes she may have already sent it. She has shown public racist bias amongst nominees and many other things thatinvalidates her from being a voter. Argue on this thread all you want, the dominos are falling and they have real life consequences.

Audra leaned in deeper last night still excavating that searing performanceand humbly as always received the love she is so rightly due. Kecia is surrounded by the future of Broadway, her cast and community keeping her hella uplifted, she received her Grammy in the mail and posted on IG and walked the streets with Malik Yoba yesterdaycelebrating all the Black women on 44th street leading shows Gypsy,SB,Boop, Purpose, and HK. A historical moment for sure. (lol she also mentioned Nicole S., she's not Black which was funny but Rashidra is so her point was stillmade.) Every day is Black history."

Watershed moment…? She didn’t say the n-word. This is not about race. She’s just an equal opportunity offender.
 

Rude? Sure. Asshole? Probably. Racist? No. 

[MB124]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 2:31pm

We are SO back.

[Midnight Radio]

Posted: 5/28/25 at 2:33pm

The witch is back to stir the cauldron, er I mean pot. More salt please.