LuPone on McDonald — Page 13

Also - didn't Glenn and Patti bury the hatchet a while back...? Could've sworn they made up.

PIG!

The War of the Roses.

She's a witch!

Mickey3309 said: "MsPiety&Rectitude said: "iluvtheatertrash said:

I don’t know what planet you’re from but words can be harmful and words can hurt people. In this thread, we have seen racism, antisemitism, prejudice, misogyny, discussion of war, discussions of drink. All of these things can cause people harm. All of them can trigger something, all of them can simply cause upset. A school where a child is being bullied is not a safe environment for the child, even though those are just words. At a certain point, the toxic of this thread is no longer safe. Perhaps you don’t feel that way. That’s fine. Keep spewing your bile instead."

A kid has to go to school. You don’t have to readthis thread and are free to log off at any time."

@MsPiety&Rectitude Spot on. @iluvtheatertrash - genuinely agree with you that some of what's been posted on here is ugly and pointedand, while it's probably no consolation, I'm sorry for that. But I think your concept of safe/unsafe in this caseisvery disempowering. It’s not unlike the rampant, similarly disempowering use of “gaslighting.” If you have the power to leave spaces you perceive as toxic or hurtful and find comfort, validation, support, community, unity etc in more fitting spaces or relationships - I urge you to recognize the power in that - - the ways you have relative control over feeling safe. Feeling safer is accessible to you. The same way that, as long one continues to hold faith in their reality, perception, POV - one is not being gaslit. Accusing people of gaslighting when you are still holding faith and certainty in your reality is disempowering. I long for more and more people to wake up to this empowering, self-respectfulreality.
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we live in a world where we need trigger warnings before movies and books and plays and musicals because people have trauma. Because people struggle with certain issues. Those trigger warnings help people have a safe environment. Using horrible language repeatedly in dehumanizing people does not create a safe environment.



in all honesty, this place has become so toxic over the last few years that I think I’ve seen enough now. Some of you revel in cruelty and mean spiritedness. Some of you don’t have enough integrity to call it out when you see it from others. And some of us just shouting into the void saying hey, why don’t you knock it off as the behavior continues in the moderators do nothing. No, this is not a safe environment for Black people. That’s very very clear. This is not a safe environment for Jews right now, that’s also very clear. This also isn’t a safe environment for people who just don’t do well with toxic, hateful behavior.



I’ve been a member for a long time here. But there’s a reason why all of the other theater chat boards talk about this one with such distain. It’s not the layout. It’s not the website. It’s the people posting. It’s all of you. And me. It’s us.



I’m out. tear out each other all you want. It’s toxic. And every single minute you continue to participate in it, you, too, are toxic. 👋

I'm going to be legit upset when this chat finally peters out.

iluvtheatertrash said: we live in a world where we need trigger warnings before movies and books and plays and musicals because people have trauma. Because people struggle with certain issues. Those trigger warnings help people have a safe environment. Using horrible language repeatedly in dehumanizing people does not create a safe environment.

I’m out. tear out each other all you want. It’s toxic. And every single minute you continue to participate in it, you, too, are toxic. 👋"

- - - @iluvtheatertrash: "Those trigger warnings help people have a safe environment." - - -

THOSE TRIGGER WARNINGS HIGHLIGHT/GIVE PEOPLE THE OPTION TO LEAVE/NOT PARTICIPATE IN THING THAT MIGHT FEEL TRIGGERING! Trigger warnings actually make/confirm the point we are trying to make! They, in addition to giving notice, spotlight your ability to not participate or find a space that feels safer! Trigger warnings are meant to direct people's attention to the self-empowering, free will option we are talking about! Trigger warnings don't shut things down - they remind people of an empowering ability to choose something for themselves.

I mean, honestly and with no sarcasm, bravo. You are now doing exactly what I (and some others of us) are talking about. You are saying "I'm out" while holding onto your reality that this board and its participants are toxic. Others see the "safety" thing differently and will hold onto that personal reality. This move is far more empowering than conveying a need or demand that a space or conversation that you are not at all bound to be shut down. Give yourself more credit!

Updated On: 5/28/25 at 11:55 AM

Wow, full day and missed nothing. Y'all even troll and joke horribly. Where would anything be without the brilliance and humor of Black people. These unseasoned ass jokes y'all telling up and down this thread L.O.L. Still denying the basics of the situation.

In any event, if y'all actually care about "what's happening", as I said yesterday, this is not dying down or going anywhere. PL crossed a line that unfortunately will have heavy implications on her legacy for the rest of her life. Being difficult...a brassy bold woman who speaks her mind, is one thing. Actors are posting stories of her bullying backstage. De'Adre Aziza posted about her bullying SRS during Women on the Verge, just to name one. She will now be known definitively as racist and thought of as one by the Black entertainment industry (not just Broadway) and also the Culture. (there are people who didn't know who patti or Audra were before yesterday, who now ONLY know her for this) To actively choose to do this at the end of your career and make it a staple of your legacy is a choice and there will be consequences. All major publications and especially one of the oldest Black magazine's Essence have picked up the story. Berniece King posted given Audra her flowers. This is a watershed kinda moment. So 2020 someone said? You must don't know the power of Black people and community.

The League and the Theatre Wing are currently being asked by a quickly overwhelming group of artists and creatives to remove her from the Tony Nominating Committee and invalidate any votes she may have already sent it. She has shown public racist bias amongst nominees and many other things that invalidates her from being a voter. Argue on this thread all you want, the dominos are falling and they have real life consequences.

Audra leaned in deeper last night still excavating that searing performance and humbly as always received the love she is so rightly due. Kecia is surrounded by the future of Broadway, her cast and community keeping her hella uplifted, she received her Grammy in the mail and posted on IG and walked the streets with Malik Yoba yesterday celebrating all the Black women on 44th street leading shows Gypsy,SB,Boop, Purpose, and HK. A historical moment for sure. (lol she also mentioned Nicole S., she's not Black which was funny but Rashidra is so her point was still made.) Every day is Black history.

Updated On: 5/28/25 at 02:12 PM

Um...I was under the impression that most of this board agrees that Patti is the a-hole in this situation? Maybe more reading comprehension and less BIG OUTRAGED REACTIONS and people would take you more seriously around here.

The witch is back to stir the cauldron, er I mean pot. More salt please.