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NBC's SMASH - Series & Broadway Adaptation Thread

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kyl3fong2
#1450Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 12:25pm

I personally like Katharine McPhee. I think she has a beautiful voice and she does her best with all the "green" and naive things the writers keep making Karen go through. I also enjoy all the cover songs she sings on the show, and even some like "Brighter than the Sun" and "Shake it Out" I thought she sang it better than the original.

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TxTwoStep
#1451Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 12:32pm

to me, within the genre, this was the best written of the episodes so far...they trusted the audience to get things without telegraphing them overtly or stating them in text (which leaves nothing much to play in subtext). Numbers good, choreo amazing, good acting played with contrast


Will: They don't give out awards for helping people be gay... unless you count the Tonys. "I guarantee that we'll have tough times. I guarantee that at some point one or both of us will want to get out. But I also guarantee that if I don't ask you to be mine, I'll regret it for the rest of my life..."

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Mister Matt
#1452Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 12:37pm

What sticks in my craw is the fact that Raza Jaffrey is a charming and H-O-T actor who has been asked to be nothing but a nasty little pill.

I second that. But this show seems to be determined to make virtually every character unlikable in some way during the first season. It's as if they only have one option to adding dimension to a character and that is to make us like them and then find a way to make them awful. By episode 4, it had already become formulaic.


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

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SonofRobbieJ
#1453Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 12:43pm

The problem is, when you have Debra Messing and Angelica Houston, you can get away with them doing unlikable things because they have a deacde (or two...or three) of good will built up in the audience. Automatically, you have a feeling towards them because we've known them for so long. They, even when they're playing their characters (and Messing is playing it very, very well), we still know them from outside of this series and we'll forgive a lot. The rest of the cast doesn't get that option because they're unknown. So...we bring no baggage to them, and will only judge them on their characters' actions.

Am I really expending this much energy and thought on this show??

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Patash
#1454Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 1:13pm

I know it's only wishful thinking, but when Leo came up missing, I was so hoping he had been kidnapped and murdered, so that we could be spared him in the future -- and it would give the parents lots of guilt issues to work on for quite a few episodes.
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"What sticks in my craw is the fact that Raza Jaffrey is a charming and H-O-T actor who has been asked to be nothing but a nasty little pill."

Really? I find Karen to be the nasty little pill in that relationship. Which one is being totally self-centered? Which one not only turned down a great job offer but didn't even mention it to the other, making a huge sacrifice? Which one keeps "forgetting" to call and cancel dates or simply doesn't show up? Which one doesn't dump all his (her) issues on the other?

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Michael Bennett
#1455Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 1:36pm

This is how I think it will go down:

Rebecca has Karen fired after they have some tiff
Ivy discovers Rebecca and Derek are having an affair
Ivy puts peanuts in Rebecca's smoothie in revenge and to get to go on as Marilyn.
Ivy's plot is uncovered and she's fired
They call back Karen a la Peggy Sawyer to do opening night of Bombshell

Season 2: Karen comes to New York as the lead in BOMBSHELL while Ivy gets cast in the lead of a musical being produced by Anjelica's ex husband.

Hopefully next season they really regroup. I think you'll see a lot of new cast members and something a little darker and more sophisticated.

Gothampc
#1456Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 1:37pm

The stage manager of a Broadway show would not just be standing around helping a star make smoothies. During breaks is when the stage manager is the most busiest. There would have been a product assistant or intern assigned to doing smoothies.


If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

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Michael Bennett
#1457Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 1:38pm

Has poor Ann Harada been given even one line on this show yet?

Phyllis Rogers Stone
#1458Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 1:39pm

Last week we were talking about slut-shaming Ivy, but I think this show slut-shames Cousin Debbie. It was funny last week when she told the shrink she had an affair, but this week with Leo's friend getting up in her grill - enough. We get it. She should be wearing an "A" as scarlet as her hair. I wish Leo and Frank would go away and Cousin Debbie could be fabulous without them.

BorstalBoy, we finally have some common ground in this thread, because I think Brian D! James is dreadful in this, too.

Eos, I can't speak for anyone but myself, but my antipathy toward MacPhee comes from the fact that I just don't like her as a performer. It's not because she was on Idol, it's because she's her. Like others have said, there's just such a dead-eyed quality to her. I didn't hate her last night, though, so either she's less annoying or I'm mellowing.

The problem with Dev, at least to me, is that he's suddenly become evil boyfriend and there's been very little to explain the transformation. Remember in the first episodes, where he was telling Karen every thought he had on Marilyn Monroe? I thought it was silly to have him be so hostile to Uma. I get that it's not like wanting success of Broadway and wanting fame like Uma's is the same, but his implication that Karen didn't want Uma's life is silly because Karen even said as much (granted, not to him) earlier in the episode.

The Karen and Dev (as well as Dev at work) and Julia's family stuff is the stuff that's the most problematic in the show, I think, but if they keep making episodes like this, where all the other stuff in it was so enjoyable, I'll be happy.

Phyllis Rogers Stone
#1459Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 1:40pm

Yeah, Ana Harada had like two lines last night. Plus she got to make a funny face in the Bollywood number.

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MrMidwest
#1460Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 2:01pm

http://crushable.com/entertainment/smash-1x12-bollywood-1001-nights-dev-625/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZd6sZ2X9RM


"The gods who nurse this universe think little of mortals' cares. They sit in crowds on exclusive clouds and laugh at our love affairs. I might have had a real romance if they'd given me a chance. I loved him, but he didn't love me. I wanted him, but he didn't want me. Then the gods had a spree and indulged in another whim. Now he loves me, but I don't love him." - Cole Porter

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#1461Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 2:03pm

"Ivy puts peanuts in Rebecca's smoothie in revenge and to get to go on as Marilyn."

Funny you mention that. When Ivy asked the weasel to help her with something, I was convinced she was going to put peanuts in the smoothie. Am I crazy, or in the previews I've been seeing all week, wasn't there a shot of the whole cast running to the door (which is when they were trying to listen to what was going on outside) but it had dialogue over it in the preview that sounded like "she can't breathe"? What happened to that line in the actual show? Perhaps I misunderstood the "can't breathe line" but that's what I thought I heard all week long.

Gothampc
#1462Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 2:05pm

"Has poor Ann Harada been given even one line on this show yet?"

Yes, last night while there was a fight going on in the rehearsal hall, she stuck her head in and said something like "The entire ensemble is outside this door" or something to the effect that everyone could hear the fight going on.


If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

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Eris0303
#1463Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 2:20pm


Am I crazy, or in the previews I've been seeing all week, wasn't there a shot of the whole cast running to the door (which is when they were trying to listen to what was going on outside) but it had dialogue over it in the preview that sounded like "she can't breathe"? What happened to that line in the actual show? Perhaps I misunderstood the "can't breathe line" but that's what I thought I heard all week long


The show likes to add snippets from stuff coming in later episodes in their previews. So I would expect that line to come next week or the week after that.


"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".

Phyllis Rogers Stone
#1464Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 2:22pm

I try not to watch previews for anything, because I don't like to be spoiled, and any time I catch a Smash preview they are previewing more than just the next episode, which is even more annoying. I remember in last week's preview Uma says something about wanting someone (Karen? Ivy?) fired.

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E.Davis
#1465Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 2:24pm

I know they have been showing things that are in future episodes, but in defense of them they are showing stuff for the end of the season and what will happen over the episodes to come. Since they have been advertising it as ONLY 3 EPISODES left.


"I think lying to children is really important, it sets them off on the right track" -Sherie Rene Scott-

Phyllis Rogers Stone
#1466Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 2:26pm

Also, Ann Harada's character has a name. It's Linda. You call her Linda!

Phyllis Rogers Stone
#1467Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 2:33pm

Also, I liked when Karen was braiding that one chorus boy's hair.

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Michael Bennett
#1468Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 2:36pm

Is there any possibility after that Bollywood thing that we might get a fantasy number in which Rebecca is chased around by Mr. Peanut?

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Phyllis Rogers Stone
#1469Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 2:37pm

HA! As soon as the peanut thing came up, I imagined Ivy finding out about it and using it to her advantage!

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DottieD'Luscia
#1470Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 2:47pm

I thought last night's episode was a lot of fun. Uma Therman has added so much life to this show.

Did Josh Bergasse choreograph the Bollywood number last night?


Hey Dottie! Did your colleagues enjoy the cake even though your cat decided to sit on it? ~GuyfromGermany

Gothampc
#1471Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 3:06pm

"Also, Ann Harada's character has a name. It's Linda. You call her Linda!"

Stage managers are never named Linda. They are always Jackie, Betsy or Sue.


If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

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TxTwoStep
#1472Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 3:15pm

Shukert has posted. Loved it!

http://www.vulture.com/2012/04/smash-recap-bollywood-episode-publicity.html


Will: They don't give out awards for helping people be gay... unless you count the Tonys. "I guarantee that we'll have tough times. I guarantee that at some point one or both of us will want to get out. But I also guarantee that if I don't ask you to be mine, I'll regret it for the rest of my life..."

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Eris0303
#1473Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 3:17pm

Has poor Ann Harada been given even one line on this show yet?

She doesn't even need lines. She's so good that she's great without them. I remember the episode where Ivy said Derek wasn't that good in bed and stormed out of the room. The look Ann gave him was epicly awesome. No need for a single line.


"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".

Gaveston2
#1474Smash - Series Discussion
Posted: 4/24/12 at 3:36pm

Does anyone else think the Bollywood number was just ridiculous?

Ridiculous, random and just a little bit racist. That said, I thought it was well performed.


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