No Shade Intended, but how many of YOU have jobs in a Broadway Musical Right NOW????

[Peace]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:17pm

I was curious because some of the people who post are so nasty and negative about the shows, almost wishing them failure, that I wanted to know is it criticism or just plain hating due to jealousy?

[Katurian2]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:19pm

I want to know why you joined today, and made your first post simply for the purpose of insulting everyone on this board. Great way to make a good first impression.

Updated On: 4/16/06 at 02:19 PM

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:20pm

What does "No Shade Intended" mean?

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:21pm

What about Broadway PLAYS?

[JustChillin8908]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:22pm

How would you know how everyone posts? The most you could even have been a part of this board is 14 hours!
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[Elphaba]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:23pm

no shade? Is that regional?

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:24pm

My vast research indicates that "No shade intended" mean "no offense"

Is that right?

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:28pm

"Shade" is a 90s term. "Throwing shade"

What about off-Broadway?

[Peace]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:28pm

I have been viewing this site for quite awhile, and never responded because I never had the time or the want to respond to what I view as just sheer hating. But I am now a part of this Broadway community and I am trying to understand how people can say and feel such things without even seeing a show. Or why people would wish that their fellow artists would be out of a job. We should be lifting each other up, not putting each other down. Further more, I never said all the people, I said some. If you aren't one of those people that like to say negative and hateful things, I wasn't talking to you. And I could care less about making a first impression. I was simply asking a question. Thanks for responding.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:32pm

Well, I agree. There's no need for hatefulness on this board. Criticism? Yes. But, I think it should be respectful.

I think too many people get caught up in cattiness. Makes em feel better about themselves or something.

[Peace]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:33pm

Plays, musicals, off-broadway, regional...it's a job. And in this business, getting one is hard and keeping one is harder. I'm new this aspect of the business and I am not used to how vicious people in this business seem to be.

[JerseyGirl2]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:38pm

I know what "shade" means. They clearly define the term in Paris is Burning.

Related to voguing is "shade," which is defined as the "verbal abuse, criticism and humiliation of a rival or competitor." "Throwing shade" is what they do when they do it.

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[jrb_actor]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:39pm

I doubt most of the people on BWW, particularly the vicious ones are actually in the business. Most people on Broadway and Off are actually pretty nice.

[shesamarshmallow]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:39pm

I'm not really sure what you're getting at. If a show closes because of poor quality or attendance, another show will come along and give jobs to a whole new round of people. That new show may be better, but we'll never see it unless inferior shows close.

It's silly logic, anyway. If a company is putting out poor product, it has to be shut down, regardless of how many people will lose their jobs. Unfortunate, sure, but necessary.

[CapnHook]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:41pm

Whenever I wish for a show to close, it is not that I want artists out of work. It is because I hate the show's writing and want a better show to take its place - thus giving artists work in a GOOD production.

For example, MAMMA MIA! has outstanding music, but the script blows. It's been on Broadway since 2001 and is still getting at lease 90%. I think it's had a nice run - now it is time to free up the theatre for a new show.

[Roninjoey]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:45pm

Nice, or just cautious about what they say and to who. You'd have to be pretty damn comfortable in your career to start going around badmouthing people.

This is the internet. The whole point is to be vicious. I think it's pretty lame when people go out of their way to hurt other people's feelings with hyperbolic statements, but we're all prone to doing it.

Theater is transient, sometimes bad, sometimes good, and always subjective. People lose their jobs and find a new one, and hope they get involved with that really good project. If you've reached a point in your career where you can pick and choose, more power to you, but it still doesn't guarantee your show'll be a hit or that everyone will like it.

It is pretty lame to go around spreading dirt about people though. It's something I find myself doing and am trying to stop. You don't have to like everything, but maybe we should keep it to ourselves more often than not.

[Roninjoey]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:45pm

Oops. Double post.

Updated On: 4/16/06 at 02:45 PM

[Peace]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:45pm

But if you haven't seen the show, how can you judge? Yes, if it is a bad show, by all means, get it out of here, but if the show hasn't even hit previews, whose to know how it will solidify itself during the preview process. It may start out a flop, and come out a winner.

[Zachary Goldfarb]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:46pm

"Most people on Broadway and Off are actually pretty nice."

That's cute of you.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 2:47pm

Thank you Jersey.

At least I got the grill reference from last night.

Old hag that I am.

The only shade I have seen thrown lately is when I am around particularly large people on a sunny day. So, now, my vocabulary has been expanded!

[JerseyGirl2]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 3:10pm

I had a drag queen tell me that I was "shady" for the way I like to "read" people.

[CapnHook]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 3:14pm

Most of the "reviews" or criticisms of shows in which obviously the reviewer hasn't seen seem to come from tweens. I ignore them, as should you. They will learn.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 3:17pm

That's cute of me? No. It's not cute of me. It's MY experience. I've been working in various houses for 3 years now--and most of the people onstrage and off have been very nice.

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 3:19pm

Just because we like to see shows doesn't mean we all aspire to be onstage. Are you really deluded enough to want to pass off any and all criticism as petty jealousy instead of considering that someone may have a legitimate opinion?

Updated On: 4/17/06 at 03:19 PM

[toomeytwopiece]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 10:07pm

I'm in a show.

and I think there are a lot of really respectful people here.

there are a few who seem to be somewhat harsh.

but I applaud you for putting into words what needed to be said :)

thank you for that! :)