Wayman_Wong said: "''I mean there's some other much more aggregious losses, like Gypsy not winning Best Book ''
Alas, ''Gypsy'' falls into those early years of the Tony Awards, when they didn't have a regular category for Best Book. As it was at the 1960 Tonys, ''Fiorello!'' and ''The Music Man'' TIED for Best Musical, beating ''Gypsy''(plus''Once Upon a Mattress'' and ''Take Me Along'' ). Wow, what a season!"
I adore Music Man but like how in the world did it beat Gypsy for Best Musical
They both are enduring classics but Music Man feels dated in some aspects
Gypsy feels classic but I think it's aged incredibly well
I think it goes to show that Tony Awards don't always reflect the show that winds up having the biggest impact
I mean look at Wicked
Avenue Q beat it for Best Musical, Book, and Score
I mean honestly I like both a lot and could see a case for either
But I don't think either show deserved all three
That being said, I'm satisfied with Avenue Q getting all the Tonys and having a long running Off Broadway transfer and Wicked getting a few for the creative aspects and acting and then running over twenty years
I think sometimes Tony Awards are like getting roles in high school
Shows or people need a career boost or a status boost so they get awards
Like we all know Sunday and Into the Woods are unbelievable shows and most people agree the shows that beat them at the Tonys are inferior or at least less sophisticated shows
And I love La Cage
But like
Sunday was going to survive no matter what
I think La Cage secured Harvey Fierstein's career, honored Jerry Herman in a way he hadn't really been in a long time, and secured a huge win for the gay "community"
The more I think about, the more I realize that winning the Tony isn't really what matters for a show
I mean I bet Waitress has more than made back its initial investments
But I'm pretty sure it won literally nothing
Meanwhile look at literally every Sondheim show
Eight Tonys for Best Score (or maybe it's seven plus a Lifetime Achievement Award) and I believe five for Best Musical (Forum, Sweeney, Passion, Night Music, and Follies)
But none of them have ever run over a thousand
Even some actors
I mean how many people on here remember BD Wong, Michael Rupert, and Roger Bart, all Tony Award Winning actors, compared to Andrew Rannells, Jordan Fischer, and Jeremy Jordan?
Especially with the internet now, it's easily possible for shows to be very successful commercially and have a place in theatre history without even being nominated for any Tonys
Be More Chill, which I don't like, ran for like eight months and was literally only nominated for Best Score, which it handily lost to Hadestown, but for a show like Be More Chill to get to Broadway and actually run long enough that it could conceivably make back its investments (considering the relatively low budget)
I mean that is just absolutely remarkable and only happens because of the internet and forums like this