She's Back! CARRIE - First preview !!! - Page 29
She's Back! CARRIE - First preview !!!
#700New ending
Posted: 2/10/12 at 10:03amYou have a great point ... but only if Andrea McArdle returns as "Annie."
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#702New ending
Posted: 2/10/12 at 6:43pm
It's certainly no more ridiculous than the prospect of Barbra Streisand starring in a Gypsy remake.
Any word on changes that might have happened in the show this week?
#703New ending
Posted: 2/10/12 at 6:46pmnewintown---LOL
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#704New ending
Posted: 2/10/12 at 11:44pm
Betty Buckley was there tonight.
She seemed to really enjoy it!
I enjoyed it - I really miss "And Eve Was Weak" in the original key. And the song still felt rushed.
#705New ending
Posted: 2/10/12 at 11:47pmBut have there been any changes?
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
#706New ending
Posted: 2/10/12 at 11:51pmSorry - it's the first time I've seen it - so the differences I've noticed were from the original '88 Soundboards!
#707New ending
Posted: 2/11/12 at 6:01pm
http://www.broadway.com/shows/carrie/video/153896/show-people-marin-mazzie-of-carrie/
In this interview Marin says they are making changes "every day", and that they "just restaged Eve was Weak again".
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
#708New ending
Posted: 2/11/12 at 6:05pm
They don't need to reblock it- they need to rethink her characterization!
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#709New ending
Posted: 2/11/12 at 6:32pm
This is the Julie Taymor approach to "fixing" a problem.
We'll change the color of his tie and have him take two steps to the left. That'll do the trick!!!
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#710New ending
Posted: 2/11/12 at 6:37pmGreat interview with her and it's great to hear her talking about grounding Margaret as a real person.
Namo i love u but we get it already....you don't like Madonna
#711New ending
Posted: 2/11/12 at 6:57pm...a real person whose daughter can wipe out a town with her mind.
#712New ending
Posted: 2/11/12 at 7:04pm
It was a great interview, she seems so funny/genuine/kind.
She mentions how Magaret is a person who 'goes out' and 'works' (as opposed to sitting at home in a black cape praying). I feel like the dialogue to suggest that (the laundry bit before "Eve Was Weak") is a bit boring though. Is this one of the 'spots' they could 'fix'?
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
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#713New ending
Posted: 2/11/12 at 9:06pmGrounding Margaret as a real person? NO. She's borderline psychotic. She KILLS HER DAUGHTER. She HAS to be scary. She's not.
#714New ending
Posted: 2/11/12 at 9:27pmI'm reading the book - Margaret is a violent raving maniac. Perhaps they've chosen to portray her entirely different in the show. For me, she was subdued and unremarkable in this version.
<-----I'M TOTES ROLLING MY EYES
#715New ending
Posted: 2/11/12 at 9:36pm
She mentions how Magaret is a person who 'goes out' and 'works' (as opposed to sitting at home in a black cape praying).
Actually, she's both, but definitely not just one OR the other.
While I'm confident that Marin could play this part any number of ways, I'm sensing she is completely in agreement with the director on this approach, and that's unfortunate (for her own sake). It's not to say that if he didn't try to take it a new direction, she wouldn't "go for it," but this is clearly not a case of "artistic differences" here.
They both are attempting to have Margaret White behave like a normal/real person.
... in a horror story ... with a daughter who burns down a town with her mind.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#716New ending
Posted: 2/11/12 at 11:25pm
Uh oh, do I sense this modern "realism" creeping into Carrie, too?
Margaret White to be fleshed-out and made real! Not some dreary, God-fearing lunatic with a cape. No! This production is honest and this director is a GENIUS! Roflmao.
Recreation of original John Cameron orchestration to "On My Own" by yours truly. Click player below to hear.
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Broadway Star Joined: 5/12/03
#717New ending
Posted: 2/11/12 at 11:41pmI was disappointed as soon as Mazzie's name was announced. She is just to soft a performer for this role. Margaret needs to be unhinged and volatile.
#718New ending
Posted: 2/11/12 at 11:56pm
If Ripley still had the pipes to tear through this role it would have been magical.
How is almost everyone in the theatre community in agreement that Margaret can't be a "real" person and yet they continue trying the approach. It's not working.
#719New ending
Posted: 2/12/12 at 1:07am
Saw the matinee today and completely agree. Trying to make Margaret a real person just doesn't work.
I think the ONLY way to make Carrie work onstage is to fully embrace its camp qualities, something this production tries desperately not to do.
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Broadway Star Joined: 5/12/03
#720New ending
Posted: 2/12/12 at 1:59amWas Ripley considered for it? Has she blown out her voice? She does have the manic acting quality the role needed.
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#721New ending
Posted: 2/12/12 at 2:05am
I found a tape of Maureen McGovern and Annie Golden from the original workshop. Wonder why Maureen never got the role? She has the chops.
Eve was Weak
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Broadway Legend Joined: 12/15/05
#722New ending
Posted: 2/12/12 at 2:32amMaureen is, and shall probably always be, my favorite Margaret. Even a little above Buckley.
#723New ending
Posted: 2/12/12 at 2:40amLeadingplayer, according to Bernie Telsey, Marin Mazzie was Stafford Arima's first and only choice for Margaret from the very beginning (he'd worked with her when he Associate Directed the original production of RAGTIME.)
Tonya Pinkins: Then we had a "Lot's Wife" last June that was my personal favorite. I'm still trying to get them to let me sing it at some performance where we get to sing an excerpt that's gone.
Tony Kushner: You can sing it at my funeral.
Tony Kushner: You can sing it at my funeral.
#724New ending
Posted: 2/12/12 at 3:29am
She still sounds like the right choice to me. Her "When There's No One" is perfect, her "Boys Could Dance" sounds more intense than Buckley's to me and even though I don't think her "Eve Was Weak" comes close to Buckley's it is by no means tame (cf. Babara Cook). In the interview Mazzie suggests that their 'vision' is of Margaret as a real person you would see walking down a street (and assumably not take a second look).
If Piper Laurie's Margaret walked past you in a street today I think you would turn to your friends and sn*, and it would be uncomfortable being alone in a room with her (e.g the scene in Sue's house) because she is just so strange.
I don't believe that Marin Mazzie is incapable of doing this, but the dialogue is just not there. How can Marin Mazzie convey a sense of craziness if the first spoken words that come out of her mouth suggest that she is just a hard working sex-typed (Laundry) woman?
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
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