Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:18pm
No, it's offensive. Period. ANYONE would get slammed for this.
Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:18pm
You are defining individual taste using broad generic terms.
Would you consider asking, "what musicals do white people like?"
When you generalize, you are likely to offend.
Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:20pm
Well said^
Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:24pm
White people like Sondheim musicals.
Straight white men are Frank Wildhorn's only male audience.
Straight plays tend to be straighter than straight musicals. Do you realize how totally utterly straight "Death of a Salesman" is? I mean. STR8 up straight.
Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:26pm
Yes generalizing. People do it all the time because there is a lot of truth in generalizing
Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:27pm
Thud.
Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:29pm
I dunno, Philly asks a viable question. It is becoming clear to me that the mere thought of FH's story is offensive to straight relatives. I will be bringing all kinds of straight people to this show, but a few people have backed out because of the content.
Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:30pm
The question posed is not offensive in the least. Guess what? GAY PEOPLE LOVE MUSICALS! Not all gay people, but a quick survey of this board would find very few straight men here. Straight men are often dragged to Broadway by their wives, but then wind up enjoying the show to a certain extent.
I would agree that your traditional hetro dude would like Guys and Dolls. And, yeah, Book of Mormon, which I personally found to be way too vulgar for my delicate taste.
Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:31pm
"White people like Sondheim musicals."
...Eh.
Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:37pm
It's more the way he asked it, as noted by devonian's post. Perhaps if he explained WHY he wanted to know, or didn't ask in such blatant terms.
I'll go devonian's post one better: If he'd asked, "What musicals do Puerto Ricans like?" THAT would be offensive, wouldn't it?
Same.
Exact.
Thing.
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Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:37pm
Falsettos. I remember a whole long, butch song about baseball.
Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:39pm
Oh come on. Falsettos is a bi musical if ever there were one. A white bi musical for white people.
Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:40pm
No it wouldn't be offensive because you can say In the Heights. Im sure Puerto Ricans would/do love that show.
Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:41pm
But there are no bi people!!!!
How could Flasettos stay open?
Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:44pm
I will be bringing all kinds of straight people to this show, but a few people have backed out because of the contentt
It's because they're closeted and don't want to be implicated. To a PERSON that's a fact.
The gays also went to Falsettos because gay musical goers love straight married men who hit their wives and get it on with other fellows.
Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:45pm
Um....they're Dominican. And Puerto Ricans would NOT like In the Heights.
Nice, now you just insulted MORE people.
Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:46pm
White people love Fun Home. Like, really, really love it.
As for straight musicals, The Scottsboro Boys come to mine, meaning a straight man can sit in the audience and not be horribly uncomfortable by boys liking boys and girls liking girls.
Seriously, Philly, W T F.
Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:54pm
When I first saw the title of the thread I assumed we were going to be discussing musicals that feel more like straight plays, like 1776 for example, which goes on for a very long time without a single note being sung. Instead we have a poorly worded thread about sexual identity stereotypes.
Bad wording aside, this is still a somewhat interesting topic to discuss. There are, after all, a number of people out there who instantly reject the idea of musical theatre based solely upon that stereotype, and there are musicals out there that may change their minds, and musicals that they may feel validate their point.
My answer to the question at hand is Book of Mormon. I think 1776 may be able to answer this question as well. Book of Mormon works because of the frat boy sense of humor that Comedy Central specializes in and gears specifically to the 18-30 year old male demographic. 1776 because of the sense of parasitism it can induces coupled with the lack of big dance numbers and jazz hands. There is nothing wrong with big dance numbers and jazz hands, but for those that view musical theatre as part of a gay stereotype, they see these things as perpetuating that stereotype. Just my two cents. While the wording of the question is kinda offensive (and yes, phillypinto, it really is), it is still worth discussing.
Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:58pm
what do you mean wtf sutton?
"Puerto Ricans would NOT like In the Heights."
LMFAO okay that is hands down the stupidest comment i have heard anybody say on here. Only Lin Manual Miranda, the composer of the show, is Puerto Rican. Didn't they even put up a production in Puerto Rico?
Posted: 4/14/15 at 4:59pm
"Um....they're Dominican. And Puerto Ricans would NOT like In the Heights.
Nice, now you just insulted MORE people."
EL TO THE OH EL, dm
Posted: 4/14/15 at 5:00pm
"[W]e have a poorly worded thread about sexual identity stereotypes.... There is nothing wrong with big dance numbers and jazz hands, but for those that view musical theatre as part of a gay stereotype, they see these things as perpetuating that stereotype. Just my two cents. While the wording of the question is kinda offensive (and yes, phillypinto, it really is), it is still worth discussing."
I agree, jimmycurry01, that the question is offensive / worded offensively because it appears to perpetuate the stereotype that liking musicals is not masculine.
By this logic, does admitting that Follies is one of my favorite musicals make me less secure in my heterosexuality than if I praised The Book of Mormon?
Posted: 4/14/15 at 5:00pm
jimmycurry, yeah the first shows I thought about were Avenue Q and Book of Mormon. As far as the wording, no matter how you word it, its still the same question so what does it matter! You people are ridiculous!!
Posted: 4/14/15 at 5:02pm
There is a lot of animosity between Dominicans and Puerto Ricans from what I understand.
They are not interchangeable people.
Posted: 4/14/15 at 5:02pm
The problem is not the wording. Its the fact that you cannot hear the spirit in which it was said.
Posted: 4/14/15 at 5:04pm
Yes, he played the part in Puerto Rico and he is of Puerto Rican descent.
That comment about Puerto Ricans not liking the show was the dumbest in BWW history. Jesus Christ.
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