The Wild Party: Battle of the "L's" — Page 6
#127
Posted: 4/8/05 at 3:03pm
Sorry, didn't understand that exactly...
#128
Posted: 4/8/05 at 3:07pm
i mean that when you originally stage a new show you are going to get a general theatre crowd rather than people from a specific gender/age breakdown because they don't know the show/music yet. i think that the shows have garnered their respective audiences more in their after-life on cd than they did onstage. also, with these two specific composers, they weren't greatly known when these two works debuted. these works were the ones that helped build their bios and reputations. so not many people knew their "styles"
#129
Posted: 4/8/05 at 3:09pm
Gotcha.
I agree. I meant composers composing shows in general. I agree, though.
I agree. I meant composers composing shows in general. I agree, though.
#130
Posted: 4/8/05 at 3:13pm
you know what i forgot. mjlac was up against himself for marie christine and the wild party in the same year.
#131
Posted: 4/8/05 at 3:16pm
Yes he was. But who won the Tony? Elton John for Aida....something wrong there? Je pense que oui!
#132
Posted: 4/8/05 at 3:17pm
you know i loves me some audra jazzy.
#133
Posted: 4/8/05 at 3:19pm
The Wild Party is now one of my favorite "shows" that I haven't seen - so I guess I mean one of my favorite scores.
#134
Posted: 4/8/05 at 3:20pm
What's not to love! She thinks I'm crazy but I'd listen to her read from a chemistry text book.
#135
Posted: 4/8/05 at 3:23pm
#136
Posted: 4/8/05 at 3:59pm
#137
Posted: 4/8/05 at 4:26pm
audra is amazing. when i saw ragtime i was so sad that she had already left the cast... little did i know lachanze had replaced her and was obviously amazing too. but i mean i would kill to see audra in anything. she needs a new broadway vehicle that will be more appreciated than marie christine was.
#138
Posted: 4/8/05 at 4:37pm
When saying La Chiusa's version actually succeeded in what it set out to do (over Lippa's, I guess you were saying,) how on EARTH do you know what La Chiusa set out to do and if in face he succeeded without even seeing the show?
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
#139
Posted: 4/8/05 at 4:37pm
That year at the Tonys, the LaChiusa votes were probably split between Marie Christine and Wild Party.
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#140
Posted: 4/8/05 at 4:38pm
I'm sorry but the Post is foolish. They've always been sensationalist and they're sources are sketchy at best. Notice how they kept refering to all the quotes as a "cast member said". That's not journalism. You name your sources and if they don't want to be indentified you say, a cast member who did not want to be identified. The fact that no one's name is mention as a direct quote is George C. Wolfe (and he doesn't seem to be talking about the antics of Mandy). I'm sure that quote was from an entirely different conversation (probably press rehearsals). There is even a point in the article where they say a cast memeber said that Mandy said. Second hand information is not news and it's crappy journalism. Of course this is hardly news for anyone. Everyone knows the Post is Sh*t
#141
Posted: 4/8/05 at 4:41pm
munk, i've seen it. and in my opinion it succeeded where lippa's did not.
#142
Posted: 4/8/05 at 4:42pm
Munk, who was that question directed at?
Bjivie, Tony voters should be voting for shows, not for composers. Marie Christine and Wild Party are both infinantly better than freaking Aida. Who voted for Aida? They must not know much about scores. I'll bet they know alot about money and touring.
Bjivie, Tony voters should be voting for shows, not for composers. Marie Christine and Wild Party are both infinantly better than freaking Aida. Who voted for Aida? They must not know much about scores. I'll bet they know alot about money and touring.
#143
Posted: 4/8/05 at 4:45pm
Yeah, I agree Jazzy. The Wolfe quotes have nothing to do with what the author is talking about.
And what I was saying about the "LaChiusa votes" are the people that prefer LaChiusa theatre over Elton John theatre. I guess it would be more appropriate to say the people who are art house fans were split between Wild Party and Marie Christine.
And what I was saying about the "LaChiusa votes" are the people that prefer LaChiusa theatre over Elton John theatre. I guess it would be more appropriate to say the people who are art house fans were split between Wild Party and Marie Christine.
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#144
Posted: 4/8/05 at 4:49pm
I personally don't think that either one of them had a chance against Aida. I mean look at this and then look at Bernedette loosing to marissa jaret Winokur or even Idina winning last year. As much as the american theatre wing wants it to be, the tony's are about box office. the same people who are voting have vested interests in certain shows. All these unjustices that have happened, have happened because a Tony award means box office potential. So now more often than not, they're awarded to the show that will make the most money on the road.
Updated On: 4/8/05 at 04:49 PM
#145
Posted: 4/8/05 at 4:51pm
i'd agree bj. i'm sure votes were split so aida ended up on top. though i'll never understand swing! getting a best musical nomination over aida. aida was good, maybe not the best, but better than swing! for god's sake.
#146
Posted: 4/8/05 at 4:53pm
ugh. let's not even bring up the bernadette losing to mjw or harvey beating antonio or bsm.
#147
Posted: 4/8/05 at 6:51pm
I saw Harvey, Antonio, and BSM, and I must say, even though Brian Stokes Mitchell is my demi-god, that Harvey did deserve the Tony.
MJW, on the other hand did not. What's wrong with her voice?
It's just.. grating!
Bernadette, not brilliant, but still more worthy of the Tony.
MJW, on the other hand did not. What's wrong with her voice?
It's just.. grating!
Bernadette, not brilliant, but still more worthy of the Tony.
Personally, I think I have too much bloom.
#148
Posted: 4/8/05 at 6:58pm
I thought Bernedette was pretty damn brilliant in that role. The standing ovation after Rose's Turn is a pretty good indication too. 1 of 2 that night.
#149
Posted: 4/8/05 at 7:19pm
While Lippa's Wild Party is very commercial, I consider LaChuisa's to be an artistic masterpiece, one of the best and most creative scores of the last 20 years. While quite tuneful, I find Lippa's score to be a bit "musical theatre 101" for my taste, sort of an idea of what modern musical theatre is supposed to sound like. LaChuisa's score is composed of material/songs that those characters would have heard at such a party, while Lippa's is much to contemporary for its source. Some of Lippa's songs are good, but I can't say they fit into a musical based on the poem "Wild Party". While the source material itself may not be the most ripe for musicilazation, LaChuisa is able to capture the feel/mood of the piece more fully than Lippa.
Updated On: 4/9/05 at 07:19 PM
#150
Posted: 4/8/05 at 7:29pm
While the source material itself may not be the most ripe for musicilazation, LaChuisa is able to capture the feel/mood of the piece more fully than Lippa.
I disagree - I mean, yeah I heard the music before reading the book, but I think the poem was just waiting to be turned into a musical. I mean, so many lyrics in La's version are right from the book.
I disagree - I mean, yeah I heard the music before reading the book, but I think the poem was just waiting to be turned into a musical. I mean, so many lyrics in La's version are right from the book.
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