Tonya Pinkins for Mamma Rose?
Tonya Pinkins for Mamma Rose?
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#2Tonya Pinkins for Mamma Rose?
Posted: 3/5/18 at 11:04amAnother Gypsy revival? Ugh.
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#4Tonya Pinkins for Mamma Rose?
Posted: 3/5/18 at 12:23pm
Plus she'll blow out her voice every Wednesday matinee so she'll be struggling vocally for the rest of the week of performances.
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#6Tonya Pinkins for Mamma Rose?
Posted: 3/5/18 at 6:42pm
Good idea, she'd surely be more exciting and would put Lupone and Peters versions to shame.
#7Tonya Pinkins for Mamma Rose?
Posted: 3/5/18 at 6:45pmMaybe in a regional production somewhere. Def. not broadway, though.
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#8Tonya Pinkins for Mamma Rose?
Posted: 3/5/18 at 8:54pmI just came here to say this - YYAAAAASSS
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#9Tonya Pinkins for Mamma Rose?
Posted: 3/6/18 at 1:24am
Roundabout, make it happen! But not an "all Black" version. Mixed-race. Do it.
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#10Tonya Pinkins for Mamma Rose?
Posted: 3/6/18 at 6:25am
Tonya has said that this is her dream role and even said she asked Arthur Laurents to make her the replacement Rose for Patti LuPone were Patti to go on vacation or leave the show. This was on a podcast - I believe Theater People.
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#12Tonya Pinkins for Mamma Rose?
Posted: 3/6/18 at 3:03pm
I love this idea and would gladly pay to see it. Tonya is a driven, passionate performer who unfortunately comes with the reputation for being extremely difficult to work with. So it would be a very tough decision for a producer to decide if the resulting performance is worth it.
#13Tonya Pinkins for Mamma Rose?
Posted: 3/6/18 at 5:01pm
A difficult, unreliable performer with no marquee valuable in a show that was revived twice recently and flopped both times? This sounds like an easy sell!
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
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#14Tonya Pinkins for Mamma Rose?
Posted: 3/6/18 at 5:18pm
qolbinau said: "A difficult, unreliable performer with no marquee valuable in a show that was revived twice recently and flopped both times? This sounds like an easy sell!"
I knew the Lupone production was a financial failure. I did not realize the BP version also was. Is that the one to which you are referring or did I forget one? If so, do you know if it was a big financial failure? (Just surprised...I thought it had done better).
PS -- I agree that it is a bad idea. If you add up the performance totals of every Broadway production of Gypsy to date, I don't think they add up to the current run of Kinky Boots. When you consider all the repeat viewers (of the various productions) -- i.e., just on Broadway, I have seen Lansbury, Daly, Lavin (ugh!), and Peters, for a total of 10 performances, and I am probably low compared to many on this board -- that tells me that there is not a large built-in audience for Gypse, even with Broadway superstars. Any future production that does not have some sort of superstar (or incredibly praised performance, a la Daly) is not going to have a chance at success, unless there is no new production for at least 20 years.
PPS -- I didn't see Lupone because I was so Gypsy'd out that I could not justify a trip to NYC too do so.
#15Tonya Pinkins for Mamma Rose?
Posted: 3/6/18 at 5:52pm
According to the NYTimes, Bernadette's Gypsy likely lost half of its $8 million investment. If you look at the grosses, it did appear to be a somewhat hot ticket (only somewhat) in 2003 but things slowed down in 2004. I can't help but wonder if they could have been a little more frugal with the spending. However, perhaps at the time they thought the star power of Bernadette Peters with a very high-profile, prestigious director Sam Mendes (who had great success with Cabaret) in a show that hadn't been seen for over a decade would be a smash hit.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
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