What happened last night???

Updated On: 6/7/04 at 11:17 AM

Something has changed on Broadway
Something is not the same
Big and overblown is no longer
The winner of every Tony game
Too late to mount a megamusical
Too late to go back now

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Hunter Foster is great and I'm sure he'll have his award time with another role..but not this one. He was good, but did not put a stamp on his role the way Jackman or Tartaglia did in their roles.
Avenue Q was better than Wicked, IMHO.

Thank god you joined today!

But anyway, not really. Wicked is just a piffle. Nothing wrong with piffles. But piffles don't have substance.

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Wicked24601, what is Wicked's substance? Having seen it, I certainly can't pinpoint it. Enlighten me. Do a MARGOCHANNING (a member here who posts informative, thought-provoking, and highly readable reviews) and tell me why WICKED is so great.

I agree Matt.

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Avenue Q is wittier.... original... HILARIOUS.... maybe if Elphaba had been a puppet and Idina was pulling the strings......


oops.

Avenue Q won. Simple enough. Get over it. Drop it. On to next year's race now.

no no no.. by "flying witch", he meant Fran Weissler.

The sad thing is, is that i really like WICKED. And with all these people who think its the only show out there and nothing can top it are really turning me off to it. I rarely want to compliment it because i dont want to be associated with them. o well.

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When it comes to Wicked its really not that hard to figure out. I am more bothered by the people who feel Wicked is the end all of the world and that no other show could ever even compare to it than I am by the show itself.

I attended Wicked on opening night and I found it enjoyable. I still say its too long so there are always parts where I wish I could fast forward it. I remember coming home from it and telling my friends that I thought it was a good evening full of so many visuals that your eyes can't take it all in. I also told them that there were some good songs but overall I thought the score was weak but the actors performances were excellent.

At the time no one cared what I said about it.

Within a month or so everyone wanted to see Wicked, everyone was so obsessed with seeing it. I think the biggest problem for me came when my cousin who never saw the show was singing all the songs to me and telling me how its the best show "EVER." Its things like that which ruined the show for me. I don't understand it. Yes, the show is good, but the people who jump the conclusion that its the greatest thing in the world aren't being objective.

Again, I enjoy Wicked, but its not the only thing out there and what has made me like the show less is the insane amount of people who are convinced it is the only show ever worth seeing. Of course, like it by all means, but don't think that there's never anything else which can compare to it. See other things too.

No matter how much you love a given show, there will always come a time when you will see something worse and you will see something better. Nothing is the end all of the world when it comes to theater because theater is always reworking itself.

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there are SO MANY Wicked vs. Avenue Q threads going on right now, I need to get involved even though I swore I wouldn't provoke the Wicked groupies anymore.

seriously, Wicked is a fun show and I had mainly good things to say about it after seeing it pre-Broadway in SF. beautiful design, some fun music, and a few amazing performances make for an enjoyable evening but it just is NOT God's gift to Broadway, and Idina is NOT the greatest Broadway singer of the all time, the century, the year, or even the evening. hearing people online and at school constantly making these wild statements about the greatness and the legacy of Wicked has left me with a horrible taste in my mouth about what the Disney-ification of Broadway has brought us to.

Wicked does not deserve all of the scrutiny it's getting from some of us "snobs" but neither does it deserve to be listed among the truly great musicals. there are many GOOD things about the show and i'm happy for Idina's win and happy that Stephen Scwartz finally has a show that can make some money, but there simply isn't anything really GREAT about it.

So I say good for Broadway for recognizing a small, original show like Avenue Q rather than voting for the show that the media expected them to. they definitely proved to be one industry that occassionally chooses substance over generic spectacle. Wicked is fun, it knows how to market itself and make money, and it fills a niche. The same is true of a Britney Spears concert, but that doesn't give her substance.

And as for a legacy? I'd say, in 10 years, it'll rank somewhere between Scarlet Pimpernel and Aida.

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DefyGravity, those things you're claiming for Wicked...? that's not substance: that's melodrama.

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