Who’s stagedooring? - Page 3

[ArtMan]

Posted: 1/4/22 at 9:06am

There must be something written on here with invisible ink, because I'm not seeing it.  Only one person in this entire thread stated they have stage doored recently and according to him/her, the cast gladly participated.  One other person, has questioned the "health risks" of stage dooring, but did state they were not participating in it, with the exception of one time.  The rest, including myself, know the risks of doing so and are NOT participating.  So where are the posts from people demanding a stage door experience during Covid that have then resulted in the preachy replies from the Grand Poobahs?

Updated On: 1/4/22 at 09:06 AM

[JayElle]

Posted: 1/5/22 at 9:41am

ArtMan said: "There must be something written on here with invisible ink, because I'm not seeing it. Only one person in this entire thread stated they have stage doored recently and according to him/her, the cast gladly participated. One other person, has questioned the "health risks" of stage dooring, but did state they were not participating in it, with the exception of one time. The rest, including myself, know the risks of doing so and are NOT participating. So where are the posts from people demanding a stage door experience during Covid that have then resulted in the preachy replies from the Grand Poobahs?"

My post mysteriously disappeared ArtMan.  Seems the truth is difficult to post. I attended the last Lehman Trilogy on Jan 2.  Post show, the manager escorted each cast member to his SUV one at a time. There were roughly 10 people there including the dealers again.

While talking with my theater worker friend, we watched as each cast member signed a poster and playbill.  If it had been a larger crowd, I suspect they would've said no.  Two of them even took a selfie.  

I had seen the show before and everyone just left post show. I don't know if this was a more recent event.  My theater worker friend and myself asked the dealer how he could get sigs with the ban on SD. He would only say, without mentioning shows, that some actors do, but David Byrne (understandably) would not.  I've seen these guys pre-pandemic hanging around alot of shows especially if there are movie/TV actors in it (Boys/Band, Network).  

 

[ArtMan]

Posted: 1/5/22 at 10:05am

JayElle, My last post was deleted also.  I was sent a nasty pm accusing me of being a bully and being abusive for my post in this thread.  If I was, I would apologize in a second.  But I am not apologizing for something that doesn't exist. From reading this thread, the majority of people are not stage dooring during Covid.  Then why the responses telling people not to...when they aren't?   I am going to take a long break from this site.  It is so telling when the majority of old posters have moved on.  Was always curious why.  Now I think I know why.

[stagemag1615582571]

Posted: 1/5/22 at 10:28am

 

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My question is why the moderator permits the censorship if it doesn't violate any rule.  Walk past any theater and you can see pre and post show if fans are standing there and how the show members react.  While at Juniors in Nov, I saw alot of folks pre-show Freestyle looking to get pix/graphs.  The same dealers again.  I suspect the crowd was likely larger when Lin Manuel performed.

Freestyle cast waved so folks could get pic, but none stopped to sign or do selfies. That's what Springsteen did.   Lehman's is a UK cast.  They appeared thrilled to hear fans telling them how much they loved the show.

Can you forward the nasty PM to the moderator?

 

 

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 1/5/22 at 12:16pm

ArtMan said: "JayElle, My last post was deleted also. I was sent a nasty pm accusing me of being a bully and being abusive for my post in this thread. If I was, I would apologize in a second. But I am not apologizing for something that doesn't exist. From reading this thread, the majority of people are not stage dooring during Covid. Then why the responses telling people not to...when they aren't? I am going to take a long break from this site. It is so telling when the majority of old posters have moved on. Was always curious why. Now I think I know why."

 

I read your post before it was removed.  BWW was right, I believe, in deleting it.  From my perspective, it violated the first two rules of "Broadway Message Board Rules".  Enjoy your long break from this site.

 

Updated On: 1/5/22 at 12:16 PM

[stagemag1615582571]

Posted: 1/5/22 at 2:22pm

ArtMan said: "JayElle, My last post was deleted also. I was sent a nasty pm accusing me of being a bully and being abusive for my post in this thread. If I was, I would apologize in a second. But I am not apologizing for something that doesn't exist. From reading this thread, the majority of people are not stage dooring during Covid. Then why the responses telling people not to...when they aren't? I am going to take a long break from this site. It is so telling when the majority of old posters have moved on. Was always curious why. Now I think I know why."

Don't disappear ArtMan. That is what they want. Keep speaking your mind.  Why not contact the moderator to ask what the issue was and report the nasty PM. How hypocritical deeming your post abusive but engaging in an abusive PM themselves.

Bottom line, if an actor choses to interact with a fan  at the SD or on a public street, that is the actor's decision and an issue that rests solely between their production company, fellow cast, security, the union, and the actor.   The actors who want to interact will and those who don't won't. Everyone knows contagion impact.

For those who oppose SD'ing, don't go. It's that simple.  

I suspect it's very gratifying to hear immediate feedback from show-attending fans. It appeared that way at Lehman.

 

 

[stagemag1615582571]

Posted: 1/5/22 at 2:41pm

52889j said: "darreyl102 said: "Are actors even allowed to stage door? I thought Equity issued a ban on it due to covid restrictions." Correct. They are not allowed. And yes equity issued a ban.
Actors could potentially be written up for it. Please leave them alone."

I don't understand.  Is anyone forcing the actor to sign? All these SDs have security who can wave people on or the actor can simply say no.  Many have. Some apparently choose not to.

I agree too ArtMan. Don't leave site. To say you violated rules without specifying what your post said and what rule was specifically violated is outrageous. 

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 1/5/22 at 6:27pm

Islander_fan said: "If you care about Broadway as a whole, you would not wait at the stage door. You think I feel that it is unfair for you if you want to wait for autographs but can’t? No, I don’t. However, I do think though, that, feeling entitled about it or have a lack of understanding of why it’s bad proves you to be beyond self centered during a pandemic.

When a show gets shut down due to a cast member(s) testing positive for Covid, it impactseveryonewho works at the theatre, not just the cast but the crew as well. And, of course, ushers and other front of house co workers of mine. Ok yes, for the interest of full disclosure, if a show is shut down due to covid I will still get paid. Yet, I don’t want to sit and just collect the checks that come in the mail, I want to ****ing work. I’m tired of just sitting around. Yeah, sure, the notion of paid time off may sound coo. But, for me, I spent over a Goddamn year and a half of that. I just wanna work a job that I love and am great at. So, yes, if this comes off like I am pissed, I am. Don’t be an ass, don’t be selfish and don’t wait at the stage door."

I’m so sorry people are so greedy and only care about getting autographs and selfies instead of you and everyone in the industry being able to keep their livelihoods! (No sarcasm here, I promise. The pandemic has truly shown peoples true colors that are UGLY) 

[JGPR2]

Posted: 1/5/22 at 6:27pm

"Even in the best of times, I think stage-dooring is just plain creepy"

Really. So standing on a line politely and getting an autograph is "creepy" - wow. Not everyone who is waiting at stage door wants a "selfie" or acts like some crazed fanboy/fangirl. I did not do the stage door thing but if actors don't mind doing it and fans are respectful I don't see the harm in normal times.

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 1/5/22 at 6:33pm

JGPR2 said: ""Even in the best of times, I think stage-dooring is just plain creepy"

Really."

 

Yes.  Really.

 

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 1/5/22 at 7:24pm

Highland Guy said: "JGPR2 said: ""Even in the best of times, I think stage-dooring is just plain creepy"

Really."



Yes. Really.

"

I think because of social media people have these ideas that actors who may respond to them are their “besties” and they can go to the stage door and say hi and it’s okay, but no. That’s not how it works. 

[JayElle]

Posted: 1/5/22 at 7:28pm

hearthemsing22 said: "Islander_fan said: "If you care about Broadway as a whole, you would not wait at the stage door. You think I feel that it is unfair for you if you want to wait for autographs but can’t? No, I don’t. However, I do think though, that, feeling entitled about it or have a lack of understanding of why it’s bad proves you to be beyond self centered during a pandemic.

When a show gets shut down due to a cast member(s) testing positive for Covid, it impactseveryonewho works at the theatre, not just the cast but the crew as well. And, of course, ushers and other front of house co workers of mine. Ok yes, for the interest of full disclosure, if a show is shut down due to covid I will still get paid. Yet, I don’t want to sit and just collect the checks that come in the mail, I want to ****ing work. I’m tired of just sitting around. Yeah, sure, the notion of paid time off may sound coo. But, for me, I spent over a Goddamn year and a half of that. I just wanna work a job that I love and am great at. So, yes, if this comes off like I am pissed, I am. Don’t be an ass, don’t be selfish and don’t wait at the stage door."  I’m so sorry people are so greedy and only care about getting autographs and selfies instead of you and everyone in the industry being able to keep their livelihoods! (No sarcasm here, I promise. The pandemic has truly shown peoples true colors that are UGLY)"

Ugly "true colors" have been around forever.  Selfishness is inherent in our economy.   Your feelings are understandable. But not all theater folks read BWW or even know about the SD ban. The dealers know, but don't care.  Fans will likely test the opportunity.  And then your fellow cast and crew can catch it anywhere they go.  Can't you have security disperse the crowd or find you another way to slip out?  

You are not alone in the anger and frustration from this never-ending plague regardless of the business type. 

 

[JGPR2]

Posted: 1/5/22 at 7:58pm

"JGPR2 said: ""Even in the best of times, I think stage-dooring is just plain creepy" Really.

" Yes. Really."

Well once again you show what an old man you are and you probably shout at kids to get off your lawn.

Amazing how many actors have said they actually enjoyed doing the stage door thing that you consider "creepy".

Just curious, do you find a kid standing by baseball field at game waiting for an autograph "creepy"?

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 1/5/22 at 8:19pm

JGPR2 said: ""JGPR2 said: ""Even in the best of times, I think stage-dooring is just plain creepy" Really.

" Yes. Really."

Well once again you show what an old man you are and you probably shout at kids to get off your lawn.

Amazing how many actors have said they actually enjoyed doing the stage door thing that you consider "creepy".

Just curious, do you find a kid standing by baseball field at game waiting for an autograph "creepy"?"

 

And once again you break the rules for participation in this board.  No personal attacks.

[Islander_fan]

Posted: 1/5/22 at 10:25pm

JayElle said: "hearthemsing22 said: "Islander_fan said: "If you care about Broadway as a whole, you would not wait at the stage door. You think I feel that it is unfair for you if you want to wait for autographs but can’t? No, I don’t. However, I do think though, that, feeling entitled about it or have a lack of understanding of why it’s bad proves you to be beyond self centered during a pandemic.

When a show gets shut down due to a cast member(s) testing positive for Covid, it impactseveryonewho works at the theatre, not just the cast but the crew as well. And, of course, ushers and other front of house co workers of mine. Ok yes, for the interest of full disclosure, if a show is shut down due to covid I will still get paid. Yet, I don’t want to sit and just collect the checks that come in the mail, I want to ****ing work. I’m tired of just sitting around. Yeah, sure, the notion of paid time off may sound coo. But, for me, I spent over a Goddamn year and a half of that. I just wanna work a job that I love and am great at. So, yes, if this comes off like I am pissed, I am. Don’t be an ass, don’t be selfish and don’t wait at the stage door."I’m so sorry people are so greedy and only care about getting autographs and selfies instead of you and everyone in the industry being able to keep their livelihoods! (No sarcasm here, I promise. The pandemic has truly shown peoples true colors that are UGLY)"

Ugly "true colors" have been around forever. Selfishness is inherent in our economy. Your feelings are understandable. But not all theater folks read BWW or even know about the SD ban. The dealers know, but don't care. Fans will likely test the opportunity. And then your fellow cast and crew can catch it anywhere they go. Can't you have security disperse the crowd or find you another way to slip out?

You are not alone in the anger and frustration from this never-ending plague regardless of the business type 

First, there are signs on all the stage doors saying actors won’t come out to sign. All theatres have them. Sure, not everyone reads this forum or is a hardcore theatre fan who knows about, say the equity ban for example. But regardless, the public should respect the fact that the cast  isn’t signing abs should let them leave via their theatres stage door without being bugged for autographs. The fact that that isn’t the case is a sign  of disrespect. There are signs posted and security to make sure that actors can leave and prevent people from getting autographs. 
 

And, anyone can get covid anywhere, I’ll grant you that. Even if you’re vaccinated and have the booster. But, regardless, the cast should be able to leave their place of work without issue, and the fans outside should be responsible and respectful of all this. So no, th onus is on the audience members outside not the staff cast and crew.

 

 

[JayElle]

Posted: 1/5/22 at 10:54pm

Islander_fan. I went to the Lehman show. No such sign, but actors came out the box office door.  If you want the public to respect no signing, then why does security allow them to mingle?  From what I have seen for years, security can control the SD crowd.  I agree the public should respect it, but many do not. And if they don't, you need an alternate plan, i.e., security, barriers, etc.   

Updated On: 1/5/22 at 10:54 PM

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 1/6/22 at 7:43am

stagemag1615582571 said: "ArtMan said: "JayElle, My last post was deleted also. I was sent a nasty pm accusing me of being a bully and being abusive for my post in this thread. If I was, I would apologize in a second. But I am not apologizing for something that doesn't exist. From reading this thread, the majority of people are not stage dooring during Covid. Then why the responses telling people not to...when they aren't? I am going to take a long break from this site. It is so telling when the majority of old posters have moved on. Was always curious why. Now I think I know why."

Don't disappear ArtMan. That is what they want. Keep speaking your mind. Why not contact the moderator to ask what the issue was and report the nasty PM. How hypocritical deeming your post abusive but engaging in an abusive PM themselves.

Bottom line, if an actor choses to interact with a fan at the SD or on a public street, that is the actor's decision and an issue that rests solely between their production company, fellow cast, security, the union, and the actor. The actors who want to interact will and those who don't won't. Everyone knows contagion impact.

Then they decide to put the production at risk. Is fan interaction during a pandemic when people are getting sick and shows are closing REALLY more important?? 

For those who oppose SD'ing, don't go. It's that simple.

I suspect it's very gratifying to hear immediate feedback from show-attending fans. It appeared that way at Lehman.



"

 

[JGPR2]

Posted: 1/6/22 at 9:39am

"And once again you break the rules for participation in this board. No personal attacks."

With as much respect for you that I can muster, you are a senior citizen, correct.  In other words, you are what is considered an old man. So calling you an old man is a personal attack, ok. I have seen "Mr. Roxy" called a lot worse and did not see you get upset. As for the "shouting at kids to get off the lawn", that is a phrase that has often been used in an attempt at humor. So go ahead and report my post to Rob.

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 1/6/22 at 9:50am

Highland Guy said: "JGPR2 said: ""JGPR2 said: ""Even in the best of times, I think stage-dooring is just plain creepy" Really.

" Yes. Really."

Well once again you show what an old man you are and you probably shout at kids to get off your lawn.

Amazing how many actors have said they actually enjoyed doing the stage door thing that you consider "creepy".

Just curious, do you find a kid standing by baseball field at game waiting for an autograph "creepy"?"



And once again you break the rules for participation in this board. No personal attacks."

I’m sorry, but I’ve been on these boards long enough to know some people couldn’t care less about personal attacks, making people feel like garbage and saying “it’s not my fault you feel that way”. They truly don’t care about how offensive they are-even if they’re the ones who provoke you. 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 1/6/22 at 11:29am

Mr Roxy can take insults and hit back, sometimes in an absolutely humorous way. The man can take a joke, which is why I dig him. The *other* senior is the worst kind of person meaning he can't take a joke and isn't funny. In my opinion of course.

Roxy COME BACK!!!!! #BIDEN2020 

[Hairspray0901]

Posted: 1/6/22 at 11:11pm

I just saw Ashley Loren from MR share on her stories a video someone took of her coming out of the stagedoor and you can see there are a line of fans waiting at the barricade! Ashley walks past them all but I just cannot believe they are waiting there in the first place. Looked like a bunch of teenagers. MR used to have signs on the door saying not to wait - wonder if they got rid of those. Oyyyy. 

[broadwayfan128]

Posted: 1/6/22 at 11:31pm

Ouch Ashley did not even look at them 

[BroadwayRox3588]

Posted: 1/7/22 at 12:54am

This thread is hilarious.

Broadway shows are cancelling/closing (and possibly one step away from another full-scale shutdown), tours are being postponed, entire tour stops are being cancelled, we still have tens of millions of insufferable idiots who won't get vaccinated. And you people are arguing about stage dooring? How about a sense of priorities here?

We really have lost the plot.

Updated On: 1/7/22 at 12:54 AM

[BroadwayRox3588]

Posted: 1/7/22 at 1:04am

Let me preface this by saying I am not afraid of covid. I actively urge others to not be afraid of covid either. I think it is very important for people to learn how to live with this virus, and start living their lives again. So bear that in mind, before anyone accuses me of living in fear. But I have this, and only this, to say.

Actors are not allowed to stage door right now. Equity literally prohibits it. Go look up their protocols, if you don't believe me.

Why would anyone who cares, even a little bit, about the actors risk getting them written up, and possibly fined, just to get their autograph? Particularly after they just got back from being unemployed for a year and a half? That is the pinnacle of selfishness right there.

Updated On: 1/7/22 at 01:04 AM

[bwaylady3]

Posted: 1/7/22 at 1:23am

People attending these shows need to understand that actors cannot engage with them right now and leave the premise. But instead, they seem to be getting more aggressive and that’s worrisome too. A fan evidently followed Aaron Tveit to his car after last night’s show looking for an autograph. This person even took a very awkward photo of he and Ericka sitting in the vehicle. Even if they were unfazed by the request, it was invasive. 

Updated On: 1/7/22 at 01:23 AM