Why no Demand for Frozen? Any Thoughts ? — Page 3

I appreciate a good pile-on, but where is the lack of demand for Frozen except in the secondary market?! Is that really indicative of a problem for the show in general? It got mixed reviews, people like to trash it... but that also describes Wicked. So, until we keep offering proof points as to why, where is the proof point that it's true?

haterobics said: "I appreciate a good pile-on, but where is the lack of demand for Frozen except in the secondary market?! Is that really indicative of a problem for the show in general? It got mixed reviews, people like to trash it... but that also describes Wicked. So, until we keep offering proof points as to why, where is the proof point that it's true?"

That's what I was thinking. It not Charlie and the Chocolate Factory level bad. My mother who loves everything, saw Charlie and texted me after saying "Can I ask for my Money back?". She saw Frozen last week and thought it was great, and has told all of her friends to see it. I don't understand why everyone on here is rooting for it to fail? Are people still upset that Disney sidelined Hunchaback to make way for Frozen? The show is SRO for the next 4 months, and has a $68 million dollar advance. I don't know about you, but that means there is clearly some demand for the production.

I am honestly happy the secondary market is crashing and burning, and it serves scalpers right for breaking the law.

Updated On: 4/19/18 at 05:04 PM

bdn223 said: "haterobics said: "I appreciate a good pile-on, but where is the lack of demand for Frozen except in the secondary market?! Is that really indicative of a problem for the show in general? It got mixed reviews, people like to trash it... but that also describes Wicked. So, until we keep offering proof points as to why, where is the proof point that it's true?"

That's what I was thinking. It not Charlie and the Chocolate Factorylevel bad. My mother who loves everything, sawCharlieand texted me after saying "Can I ask for my Money back?". She sawFrozenlast week and thought it was great, and has told all of her friends to see it. I don't understand why everyone on here is rooting for it to fail? Are people still upset that Disney sidelinedHunchabackto make way forFrozen?The show is SRO for the next 4 months, and has a $68 million dollar advance. I don't know about you, but that means there is clearly some demand for the production.

I am honestly happy the secondary market is crashing and burning, and it serves scalpers right for breaking the law."

Amen to everything you've said. I've never seen a show that has been reviled more through it's development process, tryout and eventual opening than this one has on this board. I truly don't think any production would have made everyone happy. First it was no Betsy Wolfe, then it was Michael Grandage, then it was no Ice Castle... Seriously. I completely understand and respect the opinions of those who have seen and have disliked the show. That's entirely your view, and I respect that - but for every person on this board that has said that it's a disaster and a "this decade's Tarzan", I've found 3 other people who loved it, thought it was beautifully designed, expertly performed, and incredibly entertaining. The loud cheers at the end of the first and second act and standing ovations certainly don't indicate that a majority of the viewing public are hating what they are seeing...

I mean...the show is wretched. Patti Murin is doing an admirable job, but Caissie Levy is shockingly terrible. Let It Go was just...so bad. SO BAD. From the Ice Themed Prom set to the horrific new screaming way she ends the song to the UTTERLY JOYLESS AND BLAND dress change, it's just awful.

I was there two weeks ago, post-opening, and there were HUGE blocks of empty seats. I got mine on Ticketmaster resale, and it seemed like a solid 1/3 of the seats listed were resale ones. I was up in the nosebleed balcony, and it was only about 1/4 full up there.

I always find it interesting when people bash brokers. It's very short sighted to not realize that they are very important part of the ticket landscape. Frozen would be in the toilet if they hadn't purchased so much inventory and yeah, who cares if they are eating their tickets or selling at .50 on the dollar. Look how many people are getting to see Frozen for half price! Win for the public. They also taught producers how to price their own tickets. Now large sums of money are going right back into the productions and the pockets of the backers and performers. Hamilton learned that it could command $800 for it's premium ticket because of brokers. Brokers take huge risks and nobody has a crystal ball...they have been the reason that many a show runs longer than it should have. The Band's Visit is another case where a snooze fest of a show was bought heavily and brokers are selling great seats at half price. This show is going to win a TONY for best musical and it was kept afloat financially because of brokers buying tickets.

a-mad said: "bdn223 said: "I've never seen a show that has been reviled more through it's development process, tryout and eventual opening than this one has on this board."

Try searching this message board for Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark. It was a blood feast.

bdn223 said: "I never said this. A-mad did....."

Just like I didn't say the quote above this one, you did. Lot666 doesn't quite have the quoting thing down.

Disney productions need to answer the question, "why should I spend $$$ on this when I can watch the movie at home?"

The Lion King is the only one that gives the most convincing answer. Beauty and the Beast comes very close, too.

The others? Save time and money and pop in the DVD.

The current grosses are propped up by the amount of tickets bought by scalpers.

Once that next block of tickets go on sale, the demand will not be there. Once those shows start playing, those grosses are going to take a serious dip from the current.

Why no demand? Simply put, the show is not very good.

How cheap are the tickets if I want to get them right before curtain? I actually really would like to see this show despite all of the negativity surrounding it. I also really liked Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and Spongebob, so I doubt that I wouldn't enjoy it. I do agree that there is way too much franchising going on though. For people who want to take their kid to a show, it's expensive, especially since Disney on Ice will probably roll around to the Barclays Center or somewhere else.

BroadwayNoob said: "I also really liked Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and Spongebob, so I doubt that I wouldn't enjoy it."

It pays to have low standards sometimes!

it wasn't terrible. i went for a date night. only expectations I went in with were "it's a disney production." scored $70 seats thanks to that snow storm in February. felt like it was worth that price; thought the cast was talented, honestly.