Why no Demand for Frozen? Any Thoughts ? — Page 4

uncageg said: "This is only a thought but, is it possible that "... Cursed Child" has stolen some of Frozen's thunder? "

You can't steal what isn't there. That said, I don't think they appeal to the same age range. Frozen would skew younger, no?

Yikes. Hopefully once schools let out it picks up. Crazy for a Disney show.

haterobics said: "uncageg said: "This is only a thought but, is it possible that "... Cursed Child" has stolen some of Frozen's thunder? "

You can't steal what isn't there. That said, I don't think they appeal to the same age range. Frozen would skew younger, no?"

Personally I do think it's a factor. Maybe not the biggest factor, but still. This is what has been lovingly called the "Battle of the Brands" season, so I can't imagine it doesn't play into it in some way, even if the demographics are different.

HGorn said-Wow what happened to this show?? Has demand already died? https://www1.ticketmaster.com/frozen-ny-new-york-new-york-05-02-2018/event/300052FCE36C1CAA?

YIKES INDEED. I do not remember May being that empty at all when I checked recently because when I did, April, May and much of June was pretty well sold...is returning tickets allowed for this or is that literally just HP? I swear, I remember May being damn close to being sold out, there's certainly way more empty seats (as in NOT the resale ones) than when I checked last. This doesn't bode well. I think a few things play into this. Brand season obviously to a degree, but Frozen saturation over these few years...people are over it. Also...yeah I keep hearing it's not good. Things in life are circular as has been said and I think we've reached the part in the circle where audiences are wanting quality again. Maybe.

That's an excellent point but I also think it was timing in a different sense. It was too long (not that they didn't need the development time but things move fast now) between the release of the movie and the premiere of the show to capitalize on that initial Frozen fervor. Similarly, I have no idea if people are still going to be into Avatar when James Cameron finally gets around to releasing the sequel. And yet, it was also not enough time between the release of the movie and the premiere of the stage show. I'm sure I'll get the Lion King/Beauty and the Beast argument where there were also a few years between the movie and the stage adaptation and things were fine. But I feel like things are different now where new IP has to strike while the iron is hot and older IP needs the benefit of a lot of nostalgia (Anastasia, Aladdin). Of course, it's very difficult to predict what people are going to feel nostalgic about when it comes to pre-existing properties. It's easy to diagnose failures or chart successes after the fact.

And yes, there's also word and mouth and the quality of the show.

evic said: "I give it 18 months or less."

That's a long run given everything else you said.

I just think Disney played it too safe with this one. I still left the theatre smiling, but it was ONLY because of Patti and Caissie. The loved the first 15 and last 15 minutes immensely. The rest I could have done without. I think the whole show needed more of the creativity of Colder by The Minute. I was also at the performance where the dress change didn't happen during Let It Go and for me it fell flat. Yes Caissie sang the **** out of it, but they've built that whole number around the dress change. Instead of Elsa truly letting it go and building an ice castle we got Elsa changing into a vegas dress with flashy lights and a sparkle curtain. I WISH we could have seen what Alex Timbers would have done with this.

I came in with very modest expectations and was still disappointed because it was just a chore to sit through. Briefly, since so much has already been written on it, my issues were:

The chants to bring in the forest people took me out of the world of Frozen right away and made me think "Lion King."

The story's pace seems to be - blah, blah, blah...SONG FROM MOVIE...blah blah blah...SONG FROM MOVIE, without the story naturally leading into the songs.

Elsa simply isn't much of a character. Her big song has magnified the perception of her importance. The story is really about Anna and her journey and what she is willing to sacrifice because of her love for her sister. Elsa is just a subplot of that larger story, and whether it's Alyssa or Caissie, or would have been someone else, there just isn't a character to play. And maybe this isn't a popular opinion in light of Murin-gate, but the show suffers when Patti is not on stage. Little Anna is just terrific.

The sauna scene - WTF?



It made me wonder if the dispatch of the prior director was a case of him saying "this story simply doesn't work for the stage in its present form," and the powers that be saying "regardless, that's the story you're going to tell." In that case it's easy to see why the change was made.

Updated On: 4/30/18 at 05:20 PM