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PLEASE XANADU, Don't walk away, All you got to do is stay...
it is very interesting how there has been an increase in message board arguments and less verbal ones today in our society. Technology is getting the better of us
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Broadway Schedule
December 5th- Hamilton, On Your Feet
December 19th- Noises Off, Edith Piaf Concert at Town Hall
<< Testing, I'd love to know how you know for a fact that the shows were nearly sold out.
And, no, searching for tickets on telecharge is not a reliable way to guesstimate that information. >>
Because I was at the box office a number of times within the last few days, and I asked. (I have much better things to do than search Telecharge)
Being at the show so many times, I doubt they would lie to me.
And the stage seats were sold out for just about every show with the exception of the Weds mat.
Why... you dont have a problem with the way this whole thing was handled? It was not fair to the staff of the HH, or the cast. The fans, myself included, should not be upset half as much as the cast should be.
The public found out before they did !!
The closing date was not moved up because of the poor economy.
'Early shuttering of "Xanadu" was prodded by impending losses that would have been incurred in keeping the musical running. Last week, when nearly every production on the boards saw weekly sale rise, "Xanadu" was one of the few to dip slightly, slipping to $162,616."
Stage seats selling out isn't a big deal. They're not expensive, and in the grand scheme of things it's not 40 dollar seats that matter, its all those 100.00 seats that matter, and those weren't selling. Look at the grosses and see for yourself.
Out of curiosity--- how full (in terms of percentage) do you think the theatre would have been for the last two weeks of performances (had the showed closed on Oct 12th)?
50-60%, 60-70%, lower? Higher? My guess is around 70-80% each week.
If they were losing so much money (and I am not doubting the figures), then why didnt they just announce a 9/28 closing first?
What was the average high ticket price for shows...say... 5 years ago? Was it 100? How much is it now? like 120 er 130? (Not talking about premium costs)
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yeah i think thats right Parks...I'll bet someone on here can digg up some factual numbers on the increase in price....but I do believe ticket prices have risen dramatically in the past 10-15 years.
I'd say in the 50% range... maybe 60's. They probably thought annoucing a closing on Oct 12 would boost sales and it didn't, so they had to change the date. Simple as that.
What really kills me now besides a lot of people losing their jobs is Kerry Butler's new understudy losing her job so quickly. Basically, because Kate Loprest was in last week, this girl didn't start until this week. Granted, I should be glad that Kerry will be at all the closing performances, but this girl will not get to perform at all now, unless something happens to someone between now and Sunday. And I will stop talking because I probably just cursed it even more now.
Oh yeah, and Kerry Butler's understudy is Veronica Kuehn, who played Ali in Mamma Mia. (The stage version.) I liked her, so I hope she and everyone else involved in the show can get another gig soon.
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tourboi - STFU already... you don't know what you're talking about. The show was selling in the 50% range for months, and they didn't close then. So why, all of a sudden is 50.. 60.. or 70% so low they couldn't finish out the next 2 - 3 weeks? Because somebody else wanted the theater... that's why!!!
< Patty Duke (the original Neely O'Hara) & me (March 8, 2010)
My point is... if that's true, why close so suddenly and not proceed to the originally announced date of Oct 12 (which was presumably set because of a new show coming in)? Because sales couldn't merit it, and they had already (as you said) had enough weeks of losing money.
Look, to get nasty over this and fight is pointless.
I keep saying: let's look at the positives (the future of the show beyond broadway and the audiences that will get to see it all over the place!) and be thankful we were all able to enjoy it in NY.
It's sad it's leaving, and even more sad for the cast and crew. But they'll rebound, because they're all fabulous.
tourboi - The whole point we're trying to make is that there are a lot of fans that wanted to be there for the last performances, and now they won't have the chance. That't the sad part!
PS: I've been to the show 26 times! Insane as that may sound... I really wanted to be there for the final show, but because of the the date being moved up again I won't be... that's all!
Wickedboy2 - If you don't like your job then quit! With a nasty attitude like that who the f@*k needs you to be here & make those snide comments about us. I'm a native New Yorker & love this city and the people in it. Just stay in England, you pompous ass!!!
< Patty Duke (the original Neely O'Hara) & me (March 8, 2010)
Jeff, I get that. I can't be there either, and it bums be out. I guess really what I meant by all that is this: This wasn't done intentionally to upset the fans, as some posts have seemed to insinuate. The show just was running out of financial steam.
Now I've produced shows, myself. If were in the same shoes, and I'd announced a closing, only to find that the sales increase I'd (in theory) counted on coming with a closing notice didn't come afterall, I'd pull the plug early. Unfortunately, in that situation, the fans wouldn't be the first thing I'd think of. Minimizing losses for my investors would. It's business, and nothing personal towards the fans.
I feel like the producers have been villified in this process, and I just don't think it's called for. Thats all.
Believe me, as a fan of the show, it kills me a lil' inside to see it close, and that I can't be there. But I understand why.
We got heated there, man. WHEW! I've many times enjoyed our conversations (all of us fanadus!) and the closing of the show shouldn't bring about such lashing out.
I apologize for my part, perhaps I wasn't clear. :) A truce!
Word! I'm all for peace and love. I never expected any special consideration as a fan/fanadu, but the way it's ending feels like a slap in the face to all of us who have been so loyal. I'm sorry, I have feelings too.
< Patty Duke (the original Neely O'Hara) & me (March 8, 2010)