dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion- Page 5
dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Allie
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/2/04
#100re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/28/05 at 11:04pm
What happens to the candle at the end of the song? She's not holding it when she leaves.
She throws it on the table, because Roger doesn't have any more matches with which to light it! And by that point, she's got other things on her mind... it's hard to dance with only one free hand!
Fizz
Broadway Star Joined: 3/8/05
#101re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/28/05 at 11:13pm
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Won't be here for the next few days, everyone. Tech Week for A Christmas Carol.
elvenprincess971
Broadway Star Joined: 9/12/04
#102re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 1:23pm
Question I thought of the second time of seeing RENT-
If Mark's parents are Jewish, than why are they calling him to wish him a Merry Christmas and wish you were here?
That confused me... lol.
Love,
Miss Britt
Kringas
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/05
#103re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 1:47pmIf it was Angel's "lucky day today," why does the song give the implication that she met Collins after she killed Evita?
"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey
elvenprincess971
Broadway Star Joined: 9/12/04
#104re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 2:01pm
Thats deep. I'll have to think about how that could ever make sense... 
Heres another one: Mimi has been living on the street for 3 weeks. So, why is she hardly mussed up at all? She has that "pretty dirty" which means there are like 5 strands of hair out of place. Wouldn't she be much more dirty and wan looking, to add on to her sickness?
Love,
Miss Britt
#105re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 2:44pm
During Light My Candle after they both say 'Goodnight', (before she loses her stash) why does Mimi blow the candle out?
"I should tell I blew the candle out just to get back in."
Which, you know, still makes no sense because she didn't actually leave. And why did she do the knocks?
Also (and my mom pointed this one out).. why did Mark use that tape despenser when putting up the Mimi fliers? Those weren't invented until the mid-90s.
#106re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 4:12pm
who knew that the guy from the just can't get enough and mellow yellow gap commercials had HIV/AIDS and went to the same life support metting as "the family"?
also
who knew that blake from so you think you can dance lived in alphabet city and was politically active against benny?
DiamondGirl
Stand-by Joined: 10/1/05
#107re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 4:34pm
"If it was Angel's "lucky day today," why does the song give the implication that she met Collins after she killed Evita?"
Because someone forgot that when you stretch one night out to several days, you have to look carefully to fix contradictions. The real reason "Halloween" was cut: The "Christmas Eve last year/How could a night so frozen..." part wasn't as poignant when they realized all that really happened to Mark on Christmas Eve was that he and Roger threw the contents of their illegal wood-burning stove at Benny and then he spent the rest of the night looking for Collins, who didn't turn up until the next day. The truth is out.
#108re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 4:59pmooh right..i never even thought of it like that. Yea, then Halloween really wouldn't have made any sense.
Kringas
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/05
#109re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 7:32pm
I thought, too, about "Halloween," DiamondGirl. I think stretching act one over three days was pretty detrimental to the film.
Another question - Because Roger plays "Musetta's Waltz" and Mark comments on it, the characters must live in world where La Boheme exists. Do you think any of them ever realized the striking similarities to their lives and that opera?
"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey
Updated On: 11/29/05 at 07:32 PM
#110re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 7:47pmthats really interesting kringas
Kringas
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/05
#111re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 7:53pmDoes Mimi have a fake ID?
"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey
RaininSmilies
Featured Actor Joined: 3/31/05
#112re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 8:39pm
"Because Roger plays "Musetta's Waltz" and Mark comments on it, the characters must live in world where La Boheme exists. Do you think any of them ever realized the striking similarities to their lives and that opera?"
And where did they see La Boheme? And how did Roger learn to play Musetta's Waltz. And why did Roger even go to La Boheme? It doesn't strike me as something Roger would do. I don't see Roger as a big opera fan. Maybe I'm alone on this one?
Updated On: 11/29/05 at 08:39 PM
#113re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 8:48pmI've never seen La Boheme (or heard it), yet I still knew what Musetta's Waltz was. That little bit is very popular.
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RaininSmilies
Featured Actor Joined: 3/31/05
#114re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 8:52pm
"I've never seen La Boheme (or heard it), yet I still knew what Musetta's Waltz was. That little bit is very popular."
I hadn't heard it before Rent, so I was curious where they knew it. I guess it's more popular than I knew.
#115re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 8:55pm
LMFAO-ROTFL
Ok, raininsmilies, i don't see Roger as a big opera fan either. And you'd think since he knew about the Musetta's waltz he'd know about La Boheme, as well as Mark. And from there on out they'd think 'Wow, i think we stole their lives...'lol.
Jonathan, i geuss, added these little things into the musical so we could relate it back to the opera, so the audience could go...'Hey, the Musetta's Waltz, that was a fabulous scene in the Opera, and boy does it sound cool on the electric guitar!' -That's what i think, probably not the anwser, but meh.
I still don't understand why Mimi knocks again while she's already inside Rogers place, i geuss she's trying to be extra polite?
#116re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 9:04pm
what exactly are Mimi and Roger saying to each other during the angry exchange when he confronts her buying drugs in the ally?
Gah, I love that part, he runs up and grabs her face and is all like "WTF!"
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#117re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 9:07pm
They could of seen the movie Moonstruck. 
They even mention the movie in the NYTW version.
#118re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 9:18pm
I don't think any of the characters are living in a cultural vortex. It's implied that they're all very educated. They weren't always starving artists. Roger and Mark have been oft described as "two white guys from suburbia", which indeed, it's implied they are. Collins is a professor. Most of the main characters were living in middle class America before they came to the big city to struggle for their art. That's why they all make such intelligent references (especially during La Vie Boheme). It's definitely conceivable that they'd all know La Boheme.
It's a self- aware nod on the part of Jonathan Larson's that gives us the line "That doesn't remind us of Musetta's Waltz." Musetta's Waltz is the song Rodolfo writes for Musetta, no? So it is just as if Anita has shaken Maria, and squealed, "You don't want to end up like Romeo and Juliet, do you?!" It doesn't take the audience completely out of the story, yet we know that the story is universal and can be taken in several different contexts. We are suddenly jolted into thinking about things from the writer's point of view. How do the two stories compare? Many musicals use this convention... Even All Shook Up deliberately reminds us of its source material...
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#119re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 9:21pmEr, no Rodolfo doesn't write a song for Musetta. Her song was just there.
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#120re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 9:24pmAre you sure? I thought I read that in one of Scott Miller's books.
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#121re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 9:29pm
I also read in one of his books that there are a bunch of insider jokes a la connections between La Boheme and Rent... the only other one I can remember has to do with Mimi "dropping her stash". In La Boheme, the character comes back for the "key" she dropped and in Rent, Mimi comes back for her "key", but this time it's a key of cocaine (kilo).
There are also a bunch of obvious connections with the book the opera is based on, Scenes de la vie de boheme (which I have actually read). I found way more similarities between the book and Rent than I did between La Boheme and Rent... so interesting! I'd highly recommend the book if you can find a good version...
[title of show] on Broadway. it's time. believe.
#122re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 9:29pm
::scratches head:: well it's been a while, but I was/am pretty framiliar with La Boheme...and considering Marcello, not Rodolfo, was Musettas ex-lover, why would Rodolfo write her song?
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Updated On: 11/29/05 at 09:29 PM
#123re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 11/29/05 at 9:31pm
ooh, you know what, you're right about that! i saw la boheme about eight years ago, so it's been awhile for me too... i just thought i read that somewhere but it could've been a hallucination...
[title of show] on Broadway. it's time. believe.
#124re: dust and snow on Mark and Roger's window sill--a discussion
Posted: 12/4/05 at 5:51pm
I feel very, very, late on this thread but that's A-okay. I must say first though, I love the Mark and camera of secrets icon. Too cute.
Why didn't Roger play his guitar when he sang "You Eyes" to Mimi? If he wasn't planning on using it for his one song, did he really need to buy it back again? But then again, you can't seperate Roger from his guitar. XD
Also, I've fallen in love with the skirt Mimi wears during the engagement reception. Twas very pretty, though it kind of clashed with her bright blue boots. =]
Hehe, tis nice to be back posting things again. *lost password*
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