n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
RyToast1
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#1n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 10:08am
Looking at the grosses, it would seem that next to normal will outlast 9 to 5, but with 9 to 5 being such a popular movie, and n2n being relatively unknown outside of the theatre world, does that change things?
I'd also imagine that n2n is A LOT cheaper to run than 9 to 5 is; smaller cast, less costumes, less sets, etc.
Thoughts? Does 9 to 5 have Dolly on its side?
GROSSES: https://www.broadwayworld.com/grosses.cfm
Updated On: 7/17/09 at 10:08 AM
#2re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 10:10am
Why does everyone have to focus on shows closing? Next to Normal is filling the house and bringing in a reasonable amount that will only increase with time.
So why don't you just let the shows be and see what happens, we don't need to discuss this.
#2re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 10:14am
N2N could easily follow other shows that have done well in the summer then slumped during the fall/winter.
Although id put money on 9 to 5 closing first.
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RyToast1
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#4re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 10:16am
because someone who "knows" someone in the cast of n2n (he wouldn't say who), said his cast member friend said n2n was going to be closing. When he was shown the grosses, he stopped talking about it all together. So, it got me thinking....
that's why.
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#5re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 10:17am
I agree with Chita. But I also all but guarantee that this thread is going to erupt with arguments about who knows what about each show's nut and who knows David Stone's sister's brother's dogwalker's best friend's mother who told them that N2N is closing in February of 2010. Or who knows Allison Janney's gyno's sister's mother's first grade teacher who told them that 9 TO 5 is closing next Sunday.
I agree with Chita but threads like this always erupt in arguments and discussions that are grounded in B.S.
Updated On: 7/17/09 at 10:17 AM
#6re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 10:19amNext to Normal is playing at over 90% capacity, in the summer no less--a usually soft time for Broadway and NYC tourism. I don't think it will be closing any time soon.
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#7re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 10:28am
Overheard in the lobby of the Booth, Thursday evening around 6:30pm from a young woman on her cell: "The only thing they have for tonight is standing room."
Doesn't sound like a show anywhere near a closing date.
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#8re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 10:31am
N2N isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Its advance is great, day-of sales are great, and tickets are set to go on sale through the New Year very soon. I don't know why people are obsessed with this show closing - it's having a perfectly successful run.
I don't know anything about 9 to 5's financial situation, but I hope it lasts a while. I don't see why people get so excited about shows closing - it's a devastating event for everyone employed by that show and for the fans who love the show (even if there are only a few).
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#9re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 10:35am
>Next to Normal is playing at over 90% capacity, in the summer no less--a usually soft time for Broadway and NYC tourism.<
Just the opposite. Summer is great for sales. The bottom falls out immediately after Labor Day.
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#10re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 10:35am
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#11re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 10:40amI don't think people necessarily are excited for shows to close, I think they want the mediocre shows to get out of there and let some new blood in, but they way Broadway's going, movies-into-musicals are all the rage with new shows so I don't know why we'd want 9 to 5 to close, which is a darn good show, when we are just going to get another campy musical adaptation of a movie.
#12re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 10:42amAC126748 - both shows could be playing to capacity. The bottom line is how much revenue they are bringing in.
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RippedMan
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#13re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 11:01amAgreed, Smaxie. Not sure what they were talking about. If 9 to 5 is doing this kind of business in the summer, then I can only imagine what will happen when all the tourists go home.
#14re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 11:03am
I'm thinking it's almost 5...
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#15re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 11:31amA couple of weeks ago a friend and I did lottery for 9 to 5 ~ I was helping her out, but ended up seeing it because there were more tickets than there were people needing them (in fact there were at least two other groups of people who GOT lottery tickets without being in the lottery because they were left over). At intermission she and her friend moved up to the THIRD ROW CENTER of the mezz which she reported was EMPTY. Then another friend and her mother had seen God of Carnage this past Saturday night and decided to try to second act 9 to 5 and did so successfully and with no problem finding mezz seats. For a Saturday night, that's not good.
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#16re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 11:52am9 to 5 needs to do more advertising. They barely advertise.
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#17re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 12:06pm
9 to 5 isn't closing anytime soon. They also won't peak and then bottom out like it's being said N2N will. I'll enjoy watching the haters eat crow :)
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#18re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 1:21pm
"AC126748 - both shows could be playing to capacity. The bottom line is how much revenue they are bringing in. "
No, revenue does not equal the "bottom line", literally or figuratively in this case. N2N is a much smaller show in a much smaller theater, and will never have the same revenue as 9-5 in any given week. But more importantly, it's a much cheaper show to produce. I don't know the nut for either show, but due to cast size, theater size, orch size, and everything else, N2N costs probably about half of 9-5 on a weekly basis, and that's before all of 9-5's ubiquitous marketing.
So, "Bottomline" = rev - expenses. And that's what keeps shows going. And I don't believe 9-5 is doing as well as N2N there.
I won't predict any closing, I just know that revenue is only part of the puzzle.
#19re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 1:23pmI hope both can make it through the winter.
#20re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 1:25pm
" in the summer no less--a usually soft time for Broadway and NYC tourism."
Is that a joke?
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#21re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 1:53pmIn all honesty n2n will close first, 9 to 5 can survive on stunt casting, whereas I feel that once Alice Ripley leaves n2n they show will close.
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#22re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 2:00pm
Yes, I think N2N will have a hard time surviving without Ripley, unless they find someone else who can just dominate that part (no small task). How long is she contracted for? And would she extend?
However, I don't think stunt casting will help 9-5, considering most people going probably already think Dolly is in it.
#23re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 2:21pmNo offense meant, but you're a fool!
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#24re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?
Posted: 7/17/09 at 2:34pm
"because someone who "knows" someone in the cast of n2n (he wouldn't say who), said his cast member friend said n2n was going to be closing."
Rytoast, stfu with that stuff. The thread itself is tacky for those people who pay rent from those shows (though it's a free country so speculate away), but keep your "in the know" rumors to yourself cause 9 times out of 10 they're fabricated and total bs.
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