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#26

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/17/09 at 2:48pm

Barney - Alice is contracted for a year, into April 2010. She has devoted so many years to this show and this role that I wouldn't be at all surprised if she extended or even toured as Diana. It's clearly a very important role to her and I don't think she would give it up lightly.

While her fanbase is certainly relevant to the show's success, I'm not sure that her departure, especially a year or more after the opening, would destroy the entire production. By that time, a fresh take on the part would probably interest a lot of fans. There are plenty of people who love the show for its story and score, and as long as the role is played well, the person playing it isn't as important. I'm sure there are some fans who would only see the show with Alice as Diana, but I doubt that's the majority.

#27

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/17/09 at 5:20pm

Dear BrianS,

I never ever said anywhere that I wished EITHER of these shows to close, they're both among my current favorites, but the fact of the matter on B'way is that shows DO close. Avoid talking about it all you want, but it happens. In my initial post, I didn't say anything about the "bs" he said, she said. I also never claimed to be "in the know." The only reason I even said what got me thinking about the two shows was b/c Drunk Chita Rivera commented.

It just seemed like it could be an interesting conversation, no need to get your panties in a twist.

Your friend,
RyToast1

#28

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/17/09 at 6:47pm

N2N has a tough sell do to its subject matter (much like her Sideshow) but got better reviews

9to5 is an easier sell re subject matter but did not get the reviews. It is a toss up. I would like both to succeed

A note about all the ado over A Steady Rain. Producers will use this as a wedge & start raising prices on all shows coming in despite a worsening recession. When you start to wonder why prices go up, you have yourself to blame for the stampede on A Steady Rain.

Poster Emeritus

#29

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/17/09 at 7:03pm

9-5 has very high production costs. N2N hasn't.

N2N got brilliant reviews by the New York Times, opposed to 9-5.

9-5 scooped Tonys, 9-5 didn't.

9-5 I guess is dependent on tourists, where N2N has locals coming in.

N2N is a great show, 9-5 isn't.

9-5 was up at 7pm at tkts on a Saturday night, N2N was not up for sale that day on tkts.

I worry one of the shows will close soon and you know what way I am thinking.

#30

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/17/09 at 9:08pm

I think both shows will muddle through the fall and close next January after then holiday. I'm a fan of both.

"If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it." -Stephen Colbert

#31

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/18/09 at 12:40am

'At intermission she and her friend moved up to the THIRD ROW CENTER of the mezz which she reported was EMPTY.'

They moved from the orchestra to the mezzanine?

"We like to snark around here. Sometimes we actually talk about theater...but we try not to let that get in our way." - dramamama611

#32

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/18/09 at 12:43am

And also, summer sales aren't always a great predictor of whether or not the show will be around by the end of the year. Naturally, NYC is really busy in the summer, so most shows will sell well regardless. I'm not saying I believe or hope one of these shows closes, but other factors need to be taken into account.

"We like to snark around here. Sometimes we actually talk about theater...but we try not to let that get in our way." - dramamama611

#33

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/18/09 at 1:29am

They moved from the orchestra to the mezzanine?

The lotto seats are on the extreme side of the orchestra. A seat in the mezz would be far preferable.

#34

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/18/09 at 1:44am

Both shows will drop in grosses and capacity after Labor Day (inevitably, like every other show will) and face difficult business in the fall-winter, but I think Next to Normal will probably hold on longer since it costs much less to run. I remember when Xanadu showed some very low numbers at times and everyone suspected they'd close, but they continued running for much longer than we expected. I hope N2N can stay at least a year and recoup.

The reviews and lack of Tony exposure hurt 9 to 5, and it's such a big, technical show. Plus, if White Christmas wants the Marquis, then 9 to 5 could be "kicked out" during late fall.

I am a fan of both shows for different reasons and don't want either one of them to close anytime soon.

Updated On: 7/18/09 at 01:44 AM

#35

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/18/09 at 7:46am

Both shows will drop come labour day but i think 9 to 5 will take a far bigger hit with it been more of a tourist show.

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#36

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/18/09 at 7:50am

Thanks AAdamGreer for answering that. I crashed early last night.

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#37

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/18/09 at 10:05am

Legally_Popular- I'm pretty sure that White Christmas is going into the Lunt Fontanne. That's why The Little Mermaid is closing earlier than people were saying... Also now just thinking about this, since Ragtime is going into the Neil Simon, could Robin Williams comedy show run at the Lunt right between White Christmas and the Addams Famiyl since there is no stage set-up and there will probably be a 3 month difference

#38

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/18/09 at 10:30am

Little Mermaid's closing has nothing to do with a possible return of White Christmas. Where did you get that idea from?

#39

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/18/09 at 2:27pm

^ Precisely, they don't close one show to open another. Not how it works. If Mermaid were making the necessary money, it would stay put.

As soon as word is out that a theater is becoming available, hopefull productions start scoping things out.

If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.

#40

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/18/09 at 3:18pm

Is White Christmas coming back this season?

#41

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/18/09 at 3:26pm

The producers said yes, if a suitable theater is available.

#42

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/18/09 at 8:56pm

9 to 5 is now very aggressively discounting the rest of the summer. Can't be good, and certainly doesn't bode well.

Big 9 to 5 discount

#43

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/18/09 at 8:58pm

"9-5 scooped Tonys, 9-5 didn't. "

Eh? :P

9 to 5 definitely looks more likely at present.

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#44

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/18/09 at 9:16pm

That is not that big of a discount..

I'm a professional. Whenever something goes wrong on stage, I know how to handle it so no one ever remembers. I flash my %#$&. "Jayne just sat there while Gina flailed around the stage like an idiot."

#45

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/18/09 at 9:21pm

That is a very big discount for THIS time of year.

#46

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/18/09 at 9:23pm

I really wonder what producers think by putting money in musical versions of older movies.

We've had 9 flops for 1 hit, but they keep coming up like they are guaranteed to succeed and just flop horribly.

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#47

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/19/09 at 1:26am

The discount isn't that big of a discount. Typically, most shows that aren't complete sell-outs discount their most expensive tickets to around that price. Next to Normal has that same discount, although the discount is valid only until July 26.

"We like to snark around here. Sometimes we actually talk about theater...but we try not to let that get in our way." - dramamama611

#48

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/19/09 at 1:41am

When I walked through Times Square the other day, there were all these people with tv's on their back giving out 9 to 5 fliers. Does this necessarily mean it's failing? I don't think so; it's times square, who wouldn't take advantage of the traffic? I just thought it was kinda funny.

Because I look different you think I'm subversive.

#49

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/19/09 at 1:43am

Not as funny as the girls dressed in top hats and red tights handing out Chicago fliers by the Palace.

#50

re: n2n or 9 to 5: which will close first?

Posted: 7/19/09 at 1:54am

that is funny. But a tv on your back? I just find it pretty fantastic.

Because I look different you think I'm subversive.

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