"I dont think anyone was bashing or attacking this show; rather, expressing their own interest in it. It's okay for people to have different interests, talk about them etc."
As I was saying, it is okay to have your opinion, but why try to put the show down before you saw it? Bryant Park performances out in the hot sun don't always give the best representation of the show. It is okay to not be interested in something, but why start a thread about it with nothing to back up why you think that or the basis of your judgement?
"I have no desire to see the show and I dont think its going to last very long. It has flop written all over it."
One other thing, people couldn't imagine how In the Heights would last on Broadway, given that it had a difficult time filling the theaters off-Broadway, and now look at the hit it is now.
Jaystarr, come on this thread and post your opinion since you saw it!
Having not created the thread I don't know why they started it.
I can say the thing that made me first open the thread was to see what other people were saying who are looking forward to this show.
I'm not dying to see it, but I am curious. I know two people who were involved with the show at some point, but didn't get into the Bway cast. I also have friends who saw it at Goodspeed and they all loved it. I just want to see this show so I can finally discuss it.
"I also have friends who saw it at Goodspeed and they all loved it."
I didn't realize this was at the Goodspeed in my homestate. When?
I saw it in LA and liked it a lot. It's Jason Robert Brown, folks, it's major league music. The story is fun and clever and, yes, over-20s will enjoy it. Over 50s maybe not so much...
First, everyone was whining how Broadway was becoming a "theme park" with shows like Little Mermaid, Shrek, etc.
Now he have an original musical coming and people are still complaining?
If you're going to posit this view, you should research things more thoroughly. I personally am not enthused about '13' but I am enthused about 'Shrek', thereby making me consistent with your somewhat narrow view that people should either be on the "theme park" side of the fence or the "totally original" side of the fence, and not at all deserving of the accusation of whining and complaining no matter what a show is.
'Shrek' counts as an original musical in my book anyway, but if you weren't even going to go into the depth explored in my first paragraph, you *certainly* wouldn't be going in-depth enough to determine people's actual opinions in detail. XD
Weez, I wasn't trying to single you out. I went back and read what you wrote, and you at least tried to explain what your issue with the show was.
I was just observing how most people seemed kind of put off by Shrek (which, was based on a book and a highly popular film, therefore not making it 100% original in the storyline), and now it seems that people are the same about 13.
It seems like people are never pleased with what is out there.
It's true; I should've been on a debating team as a child, I just like to argue sometimes and don't really mind which side I go for, as long as it's the opposite of what the other person is saying.
Face it, it just wouldn't be BroadwayWorld if people didn't bitch about anything and everything.
Holla.
There is one and only one thing in this world that gives me confidence in 13: Ken Davenport.
The dude knows a good product from a bad one, and he is a brilliant producer. I am still doubtful, but something tells me that he would only attach himself to this project if he knew it would be excellent.
I'm 19 and will be 20 on Tuesday and I really wanna see this.
It's worth a shot.
Plus, it looks cute.
Chorus Member Joined: 7/19/08
In my opinion, it is unwise and unfair to judge any show's quality till one has seen it, and even then, it's a crap shoot, given the fact that theatre, by its nature, always changes. I have seen terrific and lousy performances of the same show (CHICAGO is a good example) and I've seen bad musicals become good ones during its developmental process (KISS OF THE SPIDER WOMAN).
Since its L.A. premiere, 13 has a new cast, director, and a new co-librettist. If the subject matter, the talent and track record of its creators, and the advance material out there interests you enough to see it, do so. If it doesn't, don't. But to convert that interest or lack thereof into an opinion of the show's merits is premature and prejudicial, IMHO.
Friendofethelm makes excellent points. I agree heartily, and point out that my original post was merely showing a lack of interest due to a personal prejudice, and not any judgement on the final product in the slightest. :)
Broadway Star Joined: 1/19/08
Everyone makes mistakes. Look at McCollum and Seller with High Fidelity. That's not saying this one will be a mistake, but I am very interested to see how it sells!
I saw the show at Goodspeed.
It's cute.
It's 14/15-year-olds. They're not seasoned actors, but they serve the purpose of the musical. They're cute.
There's nothing sensational about the show. It's not particularly hilarious or tuneful or eye-popping, and I pray they've since fixed the confusing downer of an ending, but at the end of the show you want to stand up because -- as I said -- these kids are 14/15. I felt proud of them for getting through the show, however much it did or didn't "wow" me.
Having seen professional productions of "13" and "High School Musical," I think I'd rather sit through the latter a second time -- the stories and jokes are equally as tired in both, and the kids may have been slightly older in "HSM," but the numbers were a lot more infectious and there was more impressive dancing and singing. There, I said it.
Leading Actor Joined: 12/31/69
I clearly started this thread in posing a simple question. I wondered if there was any real interest in this kind of a show on Broadway...and like with some other posts,..I agree that children on stage for 2 hours can be a little daunting. Singing children at that...is worse. And dancing and singing children,...can be painful.
I also haven't heard or read any excitement behind it....so I was curious as to finding out if anyone here has heard anything. good or bad. or seen the previous versions.
i guess we'll wait and see.
but i don't plan on paying good earned money on something like that,..unless it was for a children's charity or a benefit.
I'm interested...cause JRB can write music...and anyone out here who wants this to fail before seeing it can just shut the **** up...
That is all.
And the first time I've EVER been bitchy on BWW!
aw...my Tommie said a swear word.
MISS YOU!
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who are these guys?
There is a huge difference between not being interested in a show and tearing it apart without seeing it. (and I don't think the poster did anything wrong by posing the question)
I am not interested in seeing this show. Do I wish it to fail? Not at all, if it is quality and it finds an audience -- great. From what I have heard from and of it, it's not something I want to spend my money or time on. Is it impossible for my mind to be changed? Stranger things have been known to happen.
I have no desire to see Jersey Boys either even though EVERY one I know that's seen it loves it. That doesn't make me a bad person....just one that never cared for or about the subject matter.
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/29/04
millie_dillmount, I saw the show in LA, and I saw the recent performance in Bryant Park as well. I've seen how the show and the cast has changed and developed, and thus, I've seen it with roughly two different exams with changes to the score and changes to the style. And I've not been interested in either one.
I don't believe I'm speaking for everyone, but in my dual experiences with this show, I've failed to have a great interest, and I've simply shared my opinion. Put down the damn pitchfork.
not interested. i had the chance to see this in LA and passed. if i wanted to see tweens on stage i'll stop by the local middle school and watch for free.
I'm so disappointed in Jason Robert Brown for writing this. But perhaps it will surprise me.
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