She's Back! CARRIE - First preview !!! - Page 3
She's Back! CARRIE - First preview !!!
blaxx
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/05
#50Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 9:30pm
The moment itself is iconic. I can't conceive the idea that any director in his right mind would think that a freakin' red light would be enough.
He should do Peter Pan without the flying too. Lame.
Listen, I don't take my clothes off for anyone, even if it is "artistic". - JANICE
#51Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 9:33pmWell, this makes me nuts. I was worried they'd do something like this -- either a red light or fabric or something. Nope, the blood dump is too iconic. I think it needs to be literally translated to stage or you're going to get a bunch of 'WHAT, NO BLOOD?' comments like the one above -- and that can kill a show.
#52Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 9:37pmThEre were also only 3 other couples at the prom because the cast was so small. That was kind of a mess!
#53Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 9:39pmI wonder why. Is it the expense of the blood? That it could stain her costume? If it's still the mic issue that faced the original production, they should just take Carrie's mic off for the finale...I mean, that theater is the size of a broom closet. Maybe they thought it would be jarring in context of the show's new intimacy, but in a scaled-back, minimalist production, wouldn't the blood be MORE effective and shocking?
#54Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 9:40pmOtherwise, Fame -- did you like the show?
#55Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 9:42pm
Scarywarhol -- My suspicion: Pitchford. When I met with him and Gore in the '90's about staging it, he thought it needed to be 'theatrical', and by that he meant 'like Kiss of the Spider Woman'. His words, not mine.
I'd say that dumping a bucket of stage blood from the rafters onto an actress is fairly 'theatrical'.
Updated On: 1/31/12 at 09:42 PM
#56Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 9:44pmEven hitting her with water (a la Flashdance) under a red light sounds like a better idea.
#57Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 9:46pm
Yes I did like the show a lot up until there was no blood. Carrie left the gym and walked into her home covered in blood? Excuse me?
I will post more in a few min when I can sit still.
blaxx
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/05
#58Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 9:46pm
I mean, that theater is the size of a broom closet. Maybe they thought it would be jarring in context of the show's new intimacy, but in a scaled-back, minimalist production, wouldn't the blood be MORE effective and shocking?
Beyond that, the bucket of blood and Carrie full of it, is the first image that comes to most people's minds. Simply throwing a bucket full of blood on someone will always be directly linked to Carrie. If he wants us to stick with a f****** red bulb, he can take the show back to flopsville.
And, really, a red light?! What is this the 60's? Did he run out of imagination?
Listen, I don't take my clothes off for anyone, even if it is "artistic". - JANICE
Insider2
Featured Actor Joined: 9/21/05
#59Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 9:53pm
So much for Arima's so-called genius imagination. This makes me regret the fact that I bought a full-priced ticket.
Updated On: 1/31/12 at 09:53 PM
#60Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 9:54pmI realize that we're creating a complete stereotype of first-preview threads (well, the ones that turn out badly), but my head is absolutely spinning over this information. I cannot believe that they didn't stage that moment. Why do the show if you don't have the means to stage that moment? It sounds like re-writing Phantom with a lightbulb for the chandelier. Updated On: 1/31/12 at 09:54 PM
hyperbole_and_a_half
Leading Actor Joined: 3/21/11
#61Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 9:56pm
Sad to hear about the lack of actual blood. Red lights seem like way too much of an homage to the 70s cheesiness of the movie's destruction scene. Hopefully that gets retooled and fast. I suspect it's not really about her head mic (most productions of South Pacific have solved the wet head mic problem for their shower scene), but more likely about her costume, the costumes of others, the clean up of the stage and, depending on the staging, the proximity and likelihood of splashing into the audience.
Otherwise, I'm encouraged to hear comparisons to the staging and "vibe" of Spring Awakening, as I've thought for a while that could be a good direction for the parts of the show that revolve around the teenage characters. Still intrigued and optimistic about this show!
blaxx
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/05
#62Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 9:58pm
I realize that we're creating a complete stereotype of first-preview threads
This is different. I'm not putting the whole production down, but the one decision. And I think we have the right - we're not criticizing whether Carrie's dress was blue or white.
And if they fix it, great. But I will still question why they had to even consider it in the first place.
Listen, I don't take my clothes off for anyone, even if it is "artistic". - JANICE
#63Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 9:58pmI wish it well too, Hyperbole, but.... "Yeah, it's good but the prom scene is lame." That's a show killer, methinks.
#64Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 10:01pm
OK what i love about this thread is Fameboy has told us he really liked the show up until that moment at the very end and everyone is hung up on the blood....really?
Yes it's a shame, yes it's an iconic image from the film but we have no idea how the effect of the lights look, if it fits in with the style of the rest of the production etc. I for one am excited to hear that the show is in great shape on its FIRST preview. This show clearly has a lot of things it needed to turnh around and it sounds like they have done it.....apart from a bucket of blood.
We knew the destruction would be staged with projections, lights and sound, it's off Broadway, they dont have the 8 million budget that the original did (though saying that The Destruction in the original was awful, an 80s nightmare, but with an awesome staircase....even though it made no sense).
If the main negative at the moment is just about the blood then all in all it looks like they have done a good job, and they still have a month of previews yet.
Namo i love u but we get it already....you don't like Madonna
blaxx
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/05
#65Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 10:02pm
but more likely about her costume, the costumes of others, the clean up of the stage and, depending on the staging, the proximity and likelihood of splashing into the audience.
If that's a concern, then you don't put on Carrie. That's like not having Peter Pan fly out of concern of staging, safety, number of harnesses needed, etc. - you just don't do the show.
Plus, if anyone here saw Evil Dead, you'd know that stage blood cannot be an excuse. They had TONS of blood in a tiny space. Certainly more than a single bucket.
Grrrrr! All these years and the best he can come up with is a red light. That makes me mad.
Listen, I don't take my clothes off for anyone, even if it is "artistic". - JANICE
#66Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 10:08pm
If you do Carrie, you pour blood on her at the prom.
If you do Mary Poppins or Peter Pan, they fly.
If you do Phantom of the Opera, you drop a chandelier on the audience.
Essentials.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#67Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 10:16pm
Musical Numbers
Act 1
1. In
2. Carrie
3. Open Your Heart
4. The World According to Chris
5. Evening Prayers
6. Dreamer in Disguise
7. Once You See
8. Unsuspecting Hearts
9. Do Me A Favor
10. I Remember How Those Boys Could Dance
Act 2
1. A Night We'll Never Forget
2. You Shine
3. Why Not Me
4. Stay Here Instead
5. When There's No One
6. The Prom
7. Carrie Reprise
8. Epilogue
Namo i love u but we get it already....you don't like Madonna
#68Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 10:18pm"Eve Was Weak" is not in the show!? Seriously...
#69Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 10:19pmThat MUST be a typo. WTFFFF
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
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#70Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 10:20pm
Don't get me wrong the show was great up until the bloodless destruction. Please get it back in and fast! I might have been ok with it if Carre didn't arrive at home covered in blood? How did that happen?
My partner loved the destruction, but I was so put off by the lack of blood that I couldn't concentrate on what was happening.
The use of the students throughout was very effective and they add a spooky feeling.
The effects here are better than the Broadway production. Light bulb pop, statue levitating, chairs moving and tipping over, doors slamming and a few pops of surprises.
If it moves uptown they will really have to rethink the physical prod.
Is it a flop ? No, but it's not a break out hit.. YET! It definitely has potential.
#71Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 10:21pmI'm sure hoping so. When I think of Carrie, that's one of the first things I think of, along with the blood.
#72Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 10:22pmIts a typo, yikes, what a typo to do, yes it's in the show after Open Your Heart, sorry guys
Namo i love u but we get it already....you don't like Madonna
bobbybaby85
Featured Actor Joined: 8/3/11
#74Less than a week until CARRIE comes back to NYC
Posted: 1/31/12 at 10:24pmUpdated On: 2/19/18 at 10:24 PM
