Musicals Without Overtures
Musicals Without Overtures
#0Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 11:42amCan anyone name musicals with overtures?
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#1re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 11:44am
gypsy
peter pan
mamma mia
guys and dolls
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#3re: re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 12:12pm
GYPSY has an overture.
Bulldog.
Updated On: 12/22/03 at 12:12 PM
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#4re: re: re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 12:13pmDo you want WITH or WITHOUT, Capn'????
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#5re: re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 12:16pm
From my generation:
Music In The Air - 1932
Roberta - 1933
Lady In The Dark -1941
Sound of Music - 1959
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#6Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 12:40pm
Into The Woods - Sondhiem
Sweeney Todd....errrr maybe this has one hmm. Please correct me if I'm wrong
#8re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 2:35pm
"Sweeney Todd" does not have an overture - just a short "Prelude". And no production I have ever seen of "Into The Woods" has had an overture either. In fact, few Sondheim shows have an overture, the major exception being "Merrily We Roll Along", which has a wonderful overture - and "A Little Night Music" has an overture which is sung by the Liebeslieder singers.
Most "older" musicals had overtures (e.g. "South Pacific", "The King And I", "My Fair Lady", etc.) while most "modern" musicals do not, often preferring to ease into the dramatic content of the show more naturally.
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#9re: re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 2:37pm
"Sweeney Todd....errrr maybe this has one hmm. Please correct me if I'm wrong"
No, Sweeney does not have an overture - just a musical prelude.
An overture is like a musical preview of a show.
Other musicals with overtures:
Annie
Oklahoma
Kind and I
Just about any R & H show.
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#10re: re: re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 2:40pm
A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
All G&S Operettas
Candide
Urinetown
The Most Happy Fella
And plenty of others.
You will find that most older musicals have them, as another poster previously pointed out.
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#11re: re: re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 2:43pm
No, Sweeney does not have an overture - just a musical prelude.
An overture is like a musical preview of a show.
I don't wish to be pedantic - but an "overture" and a "prelude" are musically quite different things. Most musicals have a prelude of some kind - often just a few bars which lead into the action - and is an intergral part of the action itself. A full blown overture is something that is played before the show begins and usually contains musical themes from a number of the songs in the show.
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#12re: re: re: re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 3:20pmI'm confused - The topic is musicals without overtures, yet the question is musicals with overtures? Which is it going to be?
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#13re: re: re: re: re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 3:23pmumm I was sure candide has an overture.. a very lovely one.. at least I have it on an overtures cd... or was that a listing for a show that did have an overture? This is the worst thread ever! lol
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#14re: re: re: re: re: re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 3:39pmRent doesn't have an overture.
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#15re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 4:05pmMillie has an overture. would you say that the first couple of seconds of Wicked is an overture?
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#16re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 4:10pmyes.. its 50 seconds
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#17re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 6:31pmJekyll & Hyde ?
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#18re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 7:12pmThe Boy From Oz has a prelude but not an overture
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#20re: re: re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 7:42pmHairspray doesn't, but there is a little prelude
#21re: re: re: re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 7:45pm
Once Upon a Mattress has an Overture.
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#22re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 8:15pmA Chorus Line has no overture.
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#23re: re: re: re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 9:46pm
"I don't wish to be pedantic - but an "overture" and a "prelude" are musically quite different things. Most musicals have a prelude of some kind - often just a few bars which lead into the action - and is an intergral part of the action itself. A full blown overture is something that is played before the show begins and usually contains musical themes from a number of the songs in the show."
I thought that's what I said. That's what I meant when I said "a musical preview of the show." Sweeney's prelude is the funeral organ music which leads right into "The Ballad of Sweeney Todd," which, in the score is refered to as the prologue.
#24re: re: re: re: re: Musicals Without Overtures
Posted: 12/22/03 at 10:05pmThe musical Lucky Stiff doesn't have an overture. Flaherty and Ahrens first work I believe.
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