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Enough of the old thread and the old battles. Let's talk about winning. Let's talk about America's future.

Let's talk about the 45th president of the United States, Hillary Rodham Clinton.



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Updated On: 11/9/16 at 11:14 PM

#3

Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

Bernie all but conceded the election tonight. His press release said he was staying in it until the end in order to push his agenda. Which...is bull$hit. If you're not running anymore, you don't get to do that. He and his wife have gone past getting on my last damn nerve.

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Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

Yeah, I get that I'm not "old enough" to talk politics, but I would think that Bernie would want to spend the next few months trying to get the people who want Bernie or bust to vote for Hillary so that they can deny Trump the white house.

At the very least Ted Cruz, being the horrible monster that he is, won't be president any time soon.

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Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

There will be plenty of time to do that after the convention.


Give me claws and a hunch, just away from this bunch.
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Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

He's an obvious Hillary plant, but it just makes this easier for her. On another note, Trump's wife is just the queen of resting bitch face. Brilliant.Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

#9

Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

South Florida said: "1 for Clinton"

South Florida said: "1 for Bernie"


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#10

Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

The Clinton campaign should jump all over the misogynistic comments he made last night. She is a former two-term senator and secretary of state. He has two divorces, three marriages, and four bankruptcies. Take gender out of the equation, and who is more qualified? Would a woman with his history even get any attention as a political candidate?



That said, it will be challenging to take him on without lowering herself to his level.


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#11

Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

javero,on Trump’s assertion that, if Hillary were a man, she’d only get 5% of the vote, Conor Friedersdorf on Twitter last night said something like, “because, of course, who would ever vote for a male Clinton for president?” Oh, wait.


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#12

Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

I guess the VP talk should also start in earnest. I assume HRC's frontrunners are still Castro and Perez, but I don't know how much debate experience they have. I still think Trump is going to go with Christie, although it will be interesting to see what happens if he doesn't get to 1237 before Cleveland. In that scenario, might the GOP convention force a VP choice onto him?


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson
#13

Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

The progressive left has been turning on Castro, but we'll see if that affects anything.

Part of me wants to see Clinton choose a lady VP, just to goad Trump into alienating women even more.


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#14

Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

If Trump keeps attacking women, like he did last night, then it would be smart for Clinton to pick a woman VP, to get women across the country even more passionate and fired up about her campaign.

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Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

Warren is the dream choice for progressives, but I think she is a long shot. Amy Klobuchar might help her in the rust belt, and is a safe choice since Minnesota has a Dem governor. Could Janet Napolitano swing Arizona, and help the Dem running against McCain?


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson
#17

Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

The real story from last night is that Trump apparently did very well with PA's unpledged delegates. His campaigned seemed to be highly organized for the first time, circulating lists of delegates who were either loyal to Trump, or had committed to vote in line with their district (Trump won every district). MSNBC is estimating that Trump netted somewhere around 40 or so of the 54 available. These folks may come in very handy in Cleveland.


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

Updated On: 4/27/16 at 12:00 PM

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Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

Yep, Team Trump has definitely re-calibrated. His new handlers even enrolled him in The Art of the Teleprompter 101. I'm encouraging folks on this end to not underestimate Trump in the general election. I fear that Hillary might have to get down and dirty with him to show strength which could compel some in the electorate to label her the word that rhymes with "snitch". Call it Hillary's Dilemma if you wish. I'm confident she'll strike the right balance.


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Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

Maybe early theories are right? And he was helping her all along? Not that she needs his help. Go Clinton, GO!Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory


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Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

When asked about attending Trump's wedding, Clinton's response should be, "I believe attended one of his weddings, but I can't recall which one. I know I didn't attend all of them."


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson
#22

Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

The Associated Press is reporting that Ted Cruz plans to announce Carly Fiorina as his running mate this afternoon in Indianapolis. This seems strange for any number of reasons, not the least of which is that he isn't the party's nominee. Did his team even vet this woman? This has all the makings of a spectacular disaster, assuming it's true.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-trump-wont-commit-toning-down-campaign-110827264--election.html?nhp=1

Updated On: 4/27/16 at 02:33 PM

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Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

Desperation, from Calvin Klein


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson
#24

Clinton vs. Trump: The Path to Victory

If I recall the GOP's convention rules correctly, the nominee is required to identity a running mate before the 1st round of voting. Cruz jumped the gun to force Trump to identify a running mate. He's all but conceded the party nomination to Trump who will lose in the general election to Hillary. Cruz has 2020 in sight now with Trump out of the way. I see the method to his madness.


#FactsMatter...your feelings not so much.

Updated On: 4/27/16 at 02:44 PM

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