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I truly do not understand how the link the Headband posted bolsters an argument against Hillary on LGBT rights. So like the vast majority of people in the country her views on gay marraige evolved in the exact same time frame as everyone else's? And she never held anti-gay views in the first place?

That's not evil. Or repugnant. What's repugnant is spreading misinformation and vitriol on topics one doesn't understand like this is all a damn game or something.

SCOTUS is not the most improtant issue of this election. I see kids die of poverty every year in the wealthiest country in the history of the world. To me that is the most important issue of this election. And they have to go to a public school system that has been sold to corporate America by Democratic lawmakers.We have a Democratic party that has largely turned it's back on the poor and has nominated a neo liberal war hawk.

This is the most depressing electioin of my lifetime. I feel despondent. Not hopeful. But I'll keep fighting evwn though the Democratic party is not.

Carlos--it is that NPR interview you keep referring to--in which she did NOT deny that she changed her position between the early 2000s and 2008. She did NOT deny that.

What she DID deny was Terry Gross's despicable insinuation--which you are repeating--that she did it ONLY for political gain. Do you and Terry Gross say that about Obama? About everyone's grandmother? NO you say it ONLY about Hillary Clinton.

That was beneath Terry Gross--and it's beneath you.

Here are her words from that interview, which you are taking the wrong way:



“I think you’re trying to say I used to be opposed and now I’m in favor and I did it for political reasons, and that’s just flat wrong. So let me just state what I feel like you are implying and repudiate it. I have a strong record, I have a great commitment to this issue, and I am proud of what I’ve done and the progress we’re making.”


She is clearly saying "I repudiate your implication I that changed for political reasons." She is clearly NOT saying "I repudiate your implication that I was ever against gay marriage."

The difference--and the crucial significance--between those two statements is the difference between respecting her and hating her.

And thank you, Kad, for pointing out that while she was coming around on marriage, she was taking the lead on other gay issues, like workplace discrimination.

Updated On: 7/5/16 at 05:06 PM

PalJoey said: "Carlos--it is that NPR interview you keep referring to..."

Yes, that's the interview.

Updated On: 7/5/16 at 05:14 PM

CarlosAlberto said: "PalJoey said: "Carlos--it is that NPR interview you keep referring to..."

Yes, that's the interview.

So...you were wrong about that. Any other examples you want to share about how "evil" Hillary Clinton is? Besides how you "feel" of course.

BeadleDeedle said: "CarlosAlberto said: "PalJoey said: "Carlos--it is that NPR interview you keep referring to..."

Yes, that's the interview.

So...you were wrong about that. Any other examples you want to share about how "evil" Hillary Clinton is? Besides how you "feel" of course.

Do you want me to start on Benghazi, the e-mails or how she blatantly took campaign contributions from Wall Street big-wigs and all of a sudden is against them.

Oh no that's not so because of course y'know something something blah, blah, blah....amirite?

CarlosAlberto said:

Do you want me to start on Benghazi, the e-mails or how she blatantly took campaign contributions from Wall Street big-wigs and all of a sudden is against them.

Oh no that's not so because of course y'know something something blah, blah, blah....amirite?

Uh, yeah, I guess I do want you to bring those subjects up. And then show me your sources. They'll be pretty simple to discuss and repudiate.



Benghazi? Really? Like, seriously? I used to think much higher of you. Wow.

Updated On: 7/5/16 at 05:37 PM

Carlos you must be crushed BeedleDeedle thinks less of you now. Do you guys really think the Trump campaign meant to insult Jews? Did they lift something from a white supremacist web site, yes, did they know that the star of David was going to cause a Jewish backlash, no, are they running an understaffed, ignorant campaign, yes. I'm not sure but I read somewhere once Trump's Dad was Jewish, and didn't his daughter convert to Judaism? When there is so much else to go after regarding this guy and his candidacy, why invent stuff?

Updated On: 7/5/16 at 05:46 PM

Oh. Trolling. Cool.

Aight! Thanks for that lameness!

I'm calm. Was just trying to have a conversation about politics on the message board I like to frequent. Thanks for that super lame trolling ya did there though! Very funny!

South Florida said: "Carlos you must be crushed BeedleDeedle thinks less of you now. Do you guys really think the Trump campaign meant to insult Jews? Did they lift something from a white supremacist web site, yes, did they know that the star of David was going to cause a Jewish backlash, no, are they running an understaffed, ignorant campaign, yes. I'm not sure but I read somewhere once Trump's Dad was Jewish, and didn't his daughter convert to Judaism? When there is so much else to go after regarding this guy and his candidacy, why invent stuff?"

NOTHING IS BEING INVENTED.

HE SHARED A LEGITIMATELY ANTI-SEMITIC IMAGE, FROM ANTI-SEMITIC SOURCES, AND IS TRYING TO CLAIM IT'S NOT ANTI-SEMITIC.

Do you not understand why that image is anti-Semitic? Do you not understand the symbolism there?

It doesn't matter if he, personally, is not anti-Semitic. He is, and has been, more than happy to share bigoted material, and it has been endearing him to swaths of openly racist, bigoted, white nationalists. THAT IS THE ISSUE.



I swear, I'm half expecting Victoria Clark to come out sometime soon and sing about how a pony kicked you.

Updated On: 7/5/16 at 06:17 PM

"It doesn't matter if he, personally, is not anti-Semitic."

Yes, staff members if not him personally are pulling stuff off of these websites, they're obviously incompetent, but to me it does matter if I was called things that I am not, much like PJ has done in this and other threads.