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#26

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"but once you get over that"

Getting over that means ignoring that it makes no sense?

How desensitized are you that a rape scene like that (which somehow is the ONLY way to transition Norman into what he becomes -- which technically we have no idea what that is unless we are sure that it's going to make him a man who grows up and goes back in time to 1960) with the man with pants down around his ankles thrusting in and out of the woman handcuffed face down on the kitchen table can seem not explicit?

I'm a Hitchcock fan myself, although I would never rank myself in the top 10%, but I know his stuff. Although claiming you're his #1 fan, I guess that means I can't possibly have reactions to this show that the creator says is NOT an homage and then has all these allusions to the Hitchcock film and have my reactions "count" as much as yours because you're #1? Also, I don't care what the reviewers say (though you always feel you need to bring in the external sources to somehow prove my argument wrong when I am just talking about my personal reactions to something, I don't read reviews before I see things. I don't care if 300,000 respected television bloggers and reviewers think it's genius, that doesn't prove my describing my reactions to the show are "wrong." They are my reactions to the show). My point isn't that American Horror Story invented the neon thing, my point is Bates Motel is trying to align itself with American Horror Story by using that. I doubt this series would have happened without the success of AHS.

I honestly don't believe you when you say you were prepared to hate it. And if you were, then I believe the fact that I stated negative opinions about it has made you reflexively take a stance for the sake of taking it.




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Updated On: 3/19/13 at 11:00 AM

#27

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I get those who found it overwhelming but I thought it was compelling. I love the fact that it's set in the present, I think it opens up the possibilities, it sounds like the remake which moved the action to the present as well. I think also if it had been set in the 60s it'd have been inevitably compared to AHS: ASYLUM and MAD MEN. I can suspend my disbelief, and I actually love the fact that some of the costumes are not contemporary, it definitely adds to the TWIN PEAKS-ness of the series.
Freddie Highmore is just okay, and his British accent totally comes out at times. However, I could watch Vera Farmiga just talk for hours, I thought she was fantastic in this, very odd and subtle. I'll definitely keep watching.
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#28

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I have to say I found Bates Motel very exciting and am looking foward to watching more. My only two dislikes about the show are 1.) the modern day setting & 2.) Freddie Highmore as Norman. Highmore's acting next to Farmiga(who is outstanding!!) is almost amatuer-like, and I hope he improves as the season goes along. The show seems to have a lot of promise and I'm very curious as to what direction they'll take this in.
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#29

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ray, I like it being set in present day also. I don't know why that's so disconcerting to some people. (Right now mostly thinking about some of the posts I read last night on IMDb, along the lines of, "but how can he be a teenager in 2013 if he was ten years older in the movie set in 1960? omg it's so confusing!"

Yeah. Well, in the universe of *this* show, Norman is 17 in 2013, and ten years from current day, in 2023, that is when the Norman "Psycho" $#1t will hit the fan. I am a fan of the original movie, not of the caliber to recall where kitchen doors were/are and the like (impressed,s&dman2!), but enough that I don't seem to recall the story in the original being absolutely reliant on taking place circa 1960. The basic story is fairly timeless. So why not bring it into the present day? Makes as much sense as Superman (in whichever medium) always being around 30ish years old even though created in the 1930s. Or modern adaptions of Shakespeare. Or Sherlock Holmes being updated and even relocated (as, again, Bates Motel has taken the story from the movie's Fairvale, CA to coastal Oregon - I forget the fictional town name, Something Someplace Somewhere). Teen Norman and his mother in 2013? Not that much of a stretch in my opinion.

I certainly don't have any problem with Namo or anyone disliking it (kind of doubt any fans really have a prob with it). It's a tv show. Some are going to like it, some not, no biggie. And yes, everyone's opinions are valid, like or dislike or on the fence.

ray... did you see the video interview with the costume designer? Forget where I watched it online -- anyway, she said that for Norman, she chose his wardrobe as if his mother picks out his clothes, and for Norma, she chose classic styles of the 40s and 50s for the character.
#30

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It's okay you don't know where the kitchen door is as long as you liked the show.

I am not repulsed by the show, as I was by the Girls pilot.
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#31

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I DVR'ed it. I had it on but I was reading my book so I wasn't really paying attention.
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#32

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I always get the feeling StockardFan enters her TV room like the opening credits of The Dick Van Dyke Show.
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#34

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^^ ha!

Stockard, I can't read with the tv on in the background. If I try I will realize I've just turned several pages without knowing what I've just read.

Just fyi for anyone interested ... Amazon Instant has the entire first episode for free download.
#35

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I'm glad I'm not alone feeling the rape scene was too explicit.

As for the show, I thought it was OK, but only OK. Setting it in modern times confused me and my friend who I was watching with--it wasn't till a good chunk had happened that we looked at each other with a "WTF this is set now" expression--which alone makes me wonder why they bothered.
#36

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I haven't watched it yet. The concept alone sort of puts me off and sounds way too gimmicky. It could work if it were campy and somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but it sounds like they are presenting this WAY too seriously.
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#37

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It certainly is done with a lot of gravitas. (I suppose they already tried a campy Bates Motel back around 1990 that was never picked up as a seriesand just released as a TV movie.)

It's fine if some people love the contemporary setting--for me, purely going from the one episode, it just seems like a "Why" to me (much like the mentioned remake.) So far, not enough IMHO seemed to connect it to the present to even bother with making a change which seems to have confused a good many viewers.
#38

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I watched it this morning. I thought it was ok. I'll keep watching it because I think it has promise but I wasn't "wowed" by it at all.

As for the modern day setting, if anything it constantly takes me out of the story whenever I see an iPhone. I mean, most people watching know when PSYCHO takes place so I think they missed a real opportunity to make it even creepier by setting it in the 50's. But all that is based on just the first episode and like someone said before, they heard it picks up around Episode 3 or 4.
#39

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That was the thing--if Norma had a cell phone she could have (in theory anyway) called the cops or someone straight away. With modern technology, horror pieces especially often have to bend over backwards to point out why things don't work.
#40

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But she had a cell phone when her other son called her. She was talking to him while she was doing the dishes.
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#41

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Ha, the the remake of When A Strange Calls a few years back?
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#42

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Right Jane, I completely forgot about it. I'm not saying obviously that you can't be attacked and raped if you have a cell phone, but it seemed odd that she spent all that effort calling her son and not looking for a phone.
#43

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Well to be fair she was in mid attack fending off the fiend with the (hey look how reminiscent it is of the one Norman, Sr used 50 years ago to kill Jamie Lee Curtis's mother!) butcher knife.

But who knows, maybe they'll end up using the iPhone ringtone as the series equivalent of the screeching violins.
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#44

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And I'm guessing that in this alternate universe, they was no Psycho film, considering all of the kids would be making fun of his name...

I don't see why they needed to set it in any other time than the original was set in.

And, none of those girls would ever want to hang with Norman. Not in real life!
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#45

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One thing that positions this prequel apart from others, is that technically speaking, Bates Motel—set in contemporary times—takes place more than 50 years after Robert Bloch’s original 1959 novel and Hitchcock's film. So why the change?

"In some ways it's more accessible to see him growing up nowadays," said Highmore. "It allows people who are coming to Norman Bates and Psycho for the first time an accessibility, because there's no necessity to have seen anything else before."

And while the characters exist in the same modern space as their viewers, a vintage muse is clearly present: dusty flannel prints, boxy televisions with lengthy antennae (shown only playing black and white films), iron bed frames, and tightly buttoned collars remind us that this present day retelling is still anchored to a romanticized past.

"There is this timeless nature to the house," Highmore said, referring to the imposing structure in front of the motel, which is an almost exact replica of the one used in the 1960 adaptation. "[Norma and Norman's] relationship is set apart from the real world outside when they're in the house." He also noted that vintage detail, when juxtaposed with an otherwise modern world, "enhances the weirdness of their relationship."

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#46

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IT'S CHEAPER!! THEY DID IT BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER!!!

For crying out loud. These Bates Motel people really need to get over themselves. I would respect them so much more if they just came out and said, "It's a half-baked idea with which we can capitalize on a very well known title and a director who just so happens to be getting a lot of attention recently without having to spend the money it would take to actually do a proper prequel."

It would be like doing "The Walton Babies" but set in the 2008 economic crisis so that they audience could have "easier accessibility."

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#47

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That's exactly how I feel. You can't just set a prequel "whenever". It's pre-something. It's in the name. It's right there. In the dictionary, even. It has a meaning.
#48

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Just asking here because I realize I really don't know. Have the creators or anyone involved with the show actually called Bates Motel a prequel themselves, or is that term solely from the press? Even calling it a "prequel of sorts" is different than outright calling it a prequel, period.

Yeah, present day being cheaper may be part of it, but I don't think that's all. I understand some people not being able to buy it. I don't have a problem with it personally. Probably people watching the show who have never seen the film will have even less of an issue. I look at the show as its own thing if that makes sense. I don't think Highmore is half bad, and Farmiga makes it well worth watching for me.
#49

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Is "a prequel of sorts" like being "a little bit pregnant"?

If it's its own thing, then why make it about Norman, his mother, and the Bates Motel at all?
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#50

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I enjoyed it. Not greatly, but I liked it enough to watch next week's episode. I'm not thrown off by the time change. When you have a woman named Norma, she's bound to be old fashioned. I don't know if the iPhones are necessary. You'd think she'd be against technology completely.

We'll see what happens next week.

(On a side note, I loved seeing the Fairy from Once Upon a Time!)

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