CAMP
CAMP
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#0CAMP
Posted: 12/20/04 at 11:31pmhas anyone seen the movie camp? I saw it for the first time about a year ago, and it can be taken either two ways, rediculously stupid or redilulously stupid. There are some tremendous performances and its deffinitely a movie that I highly recommend to the right sort of person
#1re: CAMP
Posted: 12/20/04 at 11:34pmhey buddy. post it in the "off topic" board :-P
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#7re: CAMP
Posted: 12/21/04 at 2:38amI agree with Priest. It could have been spectacular, but to me, it seemed ashamed of its own love of musical theatre. The music was strikingly non-traditional in terms of musical music. I found the ending showcase to barely resemble anything close to a musical theatre review. For example, I understand at auditions the instructors seemed bored out of their minds with songs like "tomorrow", but when Vlad sings wild horses, it looks like the instructers wish they were at a rock star camp rather than a place called, "Camp Ovation." The instructors only seemed passionate at all when rock or R&B style music was being sung. Where was the love for musical theatre roots? And I found that the idea of the camp was lost far too much in cliche teen melodrama. With the title of "Camp" I would expect the camp to have a more profound effect on the young actors. BUt what i got out of the end was that, through a series of summer sexual experimentation, Vlad realizes that he needs attention. Ok....does his opinions of theatre change at all? Does anyone else think differently about "camp?" I guess id just like to know what happened to the concept that seemed lost in the cliche.
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#8re: CAMP
Posted: 12/21/04 at 2:58am
Thank you!
I was expecting something so much better than what I saw. I couldn't believe how awful the characters and dialogue were written in this movie. I thought I was going to see something better than some cliched teenaged story that has little to do with a theater camp.
"I've got to get me out of here
This place is full of dirty old men
And the navigators and their mappy maps
And moldy heads and pissing on sugar cubes
While you stare at your books."
#9re: CAMP
Posted: 12/21/04 at 5:12amI thought it was kind of lame (and really homophobic) that ALL of the characters dressed in drag for one character's party....all of them EXCEPT the male lead. The audience had to continually be bashed over the head with how "straight" he was. Oh, and the little African American boy dressed as the little old lady had me cracking up.
#10re: CAMP
Posted: 12/21/04 at 5:52am
I actually think it's a work of genius that will gain cult then classic status with the passage of time.
I love the way that it manages to both 'play' the situations for real yet revels in the 'camp' stock nature of the situations and dramatic climaxes.
It is also has such love and celebration for our sub-culture the musical-theatre freak!
Also I thinks it's interesting for having a genuinely intriguing and ambigious central character, who manages to be genuinely 3-Dimensional and almost an anti-hero.
And to call the film homophobic really does seem humourless...
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#11re: CAMP
Posted: 12/21/04 at 7:24amI really had a hard time getting through this movie. It was so terribly done. And I'm sorry - they start the movie out with Michael, I think his name is, going to his Senior Prom in drag, then getting beat up. Then acting "depressed" and "unwanted" for half the movie. Who in their right mind would go to their senior prom in drag? I didn't feel bad for him at all - I found his character so stupid and obnoxious that I wanted him to get beat up. And this might sound shallow, but to make the "lead" of your movie have this emotional thing going on (with the "straight" boy and his parents, feeling left out, blah blah blah,) the audience is going to feel A LOT worse for you and actually care about your story if you're a good actor, AND decent looking. Why would you cast someone that ugly in a role that needs so much attention from the audience? I know I didn't want to feel bad for him. This movie was so poorly put together and so poorly illustrated musical theatre kids as phsycho faggots from hell that I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
#12re: CAMP
Posted: 12/21/04 at 8:26am
That movie is about my camp....
It is nothing like that when I first saw it I was just like "where is the waterfall?where is the lake? we can't do that at auditions! We can't do that at shows! Is that the forum?" quite far from where he was trying to go but it was supposedly a tribute to Stagedoor so : shrug : It was okay, I guess :)
When someone blunders, we say that he makes a misstep. Is it then not clear that all the ills of mankind, all the tragic misfortunes that fill our history books, all the political blunders, all the failures of the great leaders have arisen merely from a lack of skill in dancing. - Moliere
#13re: CAMP
Posted: 12/21/04 at 9:12amThey sold out and gave it a true "Hollywood" ending, unfortunately - when are they gonna let the leading man actually BE gay? It was good right up to the final scene in the woods, where they go skinny-dipping at the lake - then it all went to hell.
"I don't really get the ending,all i can go with is when after several months,Judith saw Pat sang,and later she kissed him on the toilet,after that the story back to where Pat went down from the stage after he'd sung,and he went to the italian lady.I just don't get it,what Judith exatcly meant when he kissed Pat that she had seen,and did Pat end up together with The Italian Lady?Please help me,thank u very much!"
Quote from someone on IMDB in reference to a movie he/she didn't understand. Such grammar!
#14re: CAMP
Posted: 12/21/04 at 9:14amThat movie went to hell long before the final scene, please. And that character ISN'T gay - that's the point. It's not like the writers just didn't "let" him be Gay - the storyline is that he ISN'T gay. I found his part the only believable part - I knew many boys like him in high school. The movie went to hell when I saw how untalented the lead actors were.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
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#15re: CAMP
Posted: 12/21/04 at 9:39amI think this movie is a great guilty pleasure. I do love watching it. Do I get anything out of it? Not so much, but I'm also a. not a teen, b. not a performer and c. never went to musical theatre camp. I think the music is fun and CAMPy (ha!), but the only stand out performance is the girl who plays Fritzie, who, as we have it, was actually on Broadway while the rest are complete unknowns. Which I would think was Todd Graff's point in making the film. Just average kids who like musical theater.
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#18re: CAMP
Posted: 12/21/04 at 10:23am
Tracee put in a year as a Dynamite in Hairspray, and, along with John Jeffrey Martin, has moved on to Good Vibrations.
Sasha Allen was in Bare at ATA, where she played taya Garrett and understudied Sister Chantelle.
Steven Cutts just finished up a run in Hairspray in Toronto.
Ryan Ftzgerald is in the Radio City Christmas Spectacular
Vince Rimoldi is doing some work out in LA right now, but he NEEDS To be on Broadway.
Dequina Moore was last seen as Chiffon in Little Shop on Broadway.
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#23re: CAMP
Posted: 12/21/04 at 11:34am
When the movie actually focused on theatre, it was golden.
When it focused on the personal lives of the campers, it made me want to scratch my eyes out.
It seemed only a few of the secondary characters were truly obsessed with theatre. The rest were non-plussed by it.
That said, Anna Kendrick delivered a camp classic of a performance and was rightly nominated for an Independent Spirit Award last year.
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