CARNAGE - The Movie - repulsive, terrible- Page 5

[best12bars]

Posted: 9/7/13 at 7:48am

The Pope's name is Francis.

Namo, if you read Roscoe's remarks, which Playbilly and I commented on, you'll see he was referring to Pope Benedict, not the current pope.

Updated On: 9/7/13 at 07:48 AM

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 9/7/13 at 9:37am

Reggie

Agree she was perfect in Popeye. In fact the whole cast was spot on but the songs were horrible and the setting even worse.

[Playbilly]

Posted: 9/7/13 at 10:21am

To paraphrase Esquire magazine (I believe), Shelley Duvall played the Oyl sisters in 1980 with Popeye and The Shining: Olive Oyl and Gargoyle.

[best12bars]

Posted: 9/7/13 at 10:31am

I love Shelley in "The Shining."

I didn't always. I was in the "WTF?" camp when the film first came out. I couldn't tell if she was bad or just acting on another planet or "plane."

The more I see the film, the more I realize that everyone in the film is doing the same thing. It's all a bit stilted, a bit off, a bit unsettling. Some of that is in the delayed editing technique that Kubrick often uses. He lingers on faces longer, then cuts to a reverse shot for a response, and it creates this odd, unnatural delay in the rhythm. That's not the actors' faults, it's how he liked to tell his stories (achieved in post-production editing). And in "The Shining," I think it works really well.

Over the years, I've gotten to like, embrace, and even love Shelley's performance in this movie. I think she's every bit as good as Nicholson in it.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 9/7/13 at 10:39am

Your description of her acting reminds me of Melanie Griffith. I can't tell if she's a bad actress or an amazing one, even though I love most of her movies.

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 9/7/13 at 11:19am

Melanie Griffith gets a lot of flak. (My late father called her "Mumbles.") But I think she's really great even in highly questionable things like the remake of "Born Yesterday."

Ugh. "The Shining." I like Kubrick movies as often as I dislike them and, with a couple of notable exceptions, I adore Jack Nicholson, but that movie is a mess from top to bottom. It plays like a comedy to me.

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[ray-andallthatjazz86]

Posted: 9/7/13 at 12:50pm

THE SHINING is so brilliant though! My boyfriend hates Shelley Duvall in it, and I did know her performance has a bad rep. I've only seen the movie once (saw it for the first time one or two Halloweens ago, not a horror movie fan here, so it took a lot of convincing), but I thought she was perfection. Like Besty said, she's so off, there's something so strange about her, that it created such a creepy mood. That scene where she talks to him on the phone stood out to me as a great acting moment; there just seemed to be so much history between them, and not a good history at all. She seemed scared of her husband way before he turns up the crazy, and I like how weird she is, very different from your typical terrorized pretty girl at the center of most horror movies today.

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 9/7/13 at 1:17pm

I do think she comes out of it the best.

[StageManager2]

Posted: 9/7/13 at 1:49pm

Melanie Griffith's constant throat-clearing in Working Girl ruined the movie for me.
A Frog in Her Throat

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 9/7/13 at 5:34pm

Jack Nicholson & Shelley Duvall need to come to Broadway in a revival of THE GIN GAME.

[best12bars]

Posted: 9/7/13 at 5:54pm

OMG!

On Golden Pond. Jack can break down the cabin door with an axe! I would love it if that cabin were haunted. And she can call him an old poop.

Then the blond kid can have the shining power ... and their daughter and her dentist husband can be murdered when they both show up at the end to rescue everyone!

And ... and ...

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 9/7/13 at 5:56pm

And when she calls him an old poop, a SH*T demon can appear from one of the gates of hell that's been opened up and Jack can say "No, THAT'S an old poop"!

[someone.else's.story2]

Posted: 9/7/13 at 7:48pm

Wow, I really didn't like the play and thought I was alone in that sentiment (both my boyfriend and I hated the characters, the not that great writing and how predictabe it was). It makes me feel a bit better reading this thread and seeing that not everyone liked the stage version. I wasn't interested in the film but it sounds even more dreadful than the play.

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 9/7/13 at 7:56pm

"Jack Nicholson & Shelley Duvall need to come to Broadway in a revival of THE GIN GAME."

My God, if ever there was a ridiculous notion that is as intriguing as it is ridiculous...

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 9/7/13 at 8:05pm

And at the very end of the play, a huge photo would appear in the background of them playing the game in in 1921.

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 9/7/13 at 8:09pm

LOL