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California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge- Page 5

California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge

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PalJoey
#100re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/22/09 at 8:56pm

And so can my two MOMMIES!


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NYadgal
#101re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/22/09 at 9:07pm

I'm wondering how old this person is, and if the ideas are his own? Or, has he been 'carefully taught'?

Which is what worries me the most.


"Two drifters off to see the world. There's such a lot of world to see. . ."

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zoraksferal
#102re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/22/09 at 9:41pm

So, can people who are younger not be smart enough to formulate their own ideas?


"It doesn't work when you lick it!"

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FlyingMonkey1223
#103re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/23/09 at 2:38am

Young people can be very smart, but i also know that when i was younger i thought differently about many things because of my lack of exposure and education.

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Mister Matt
#104re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/28/09 at 4:36pm

It's just that kids can be cruel, and i am sure they might have some fun harassing the kid with two daddies.

And denying equal rights to gays for adoption only perpetuates that sort of attitude. Your opinion on the matter is extremely short-sighted.


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

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zoraksferal
#105re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/28/09 at 6:36pm

I am trying to protect the kids here. A gay couple doesn't need to adopt, especially if it is at the cost of the kids happiness at school or around cruel kids.


"It doesn't work when you lick it!"

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jrb_actor
#106re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/28/09 at 9:12pm

So, they are better off in the foster care system or with no parents at all?

You are such total BS. Again, I don't believe for one second you are actually a gay person. Or if you are, that you respect yourself.


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zoraksferal
#107re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/29/09 at 8:12pm

Wow, you are the most offensive person I know. I have homophobic friends that respect me more than you. It amazes me. For the billionth time, I am gay. I do highly respect myself. I just happen to be of a different, more traditional mindset. Why can you not understand or even tolerate that?


"It doesn't work when you lick it!"

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tazber
#108re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/29/09 at 9:50pm

re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge


....but the world goes 'round

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jrb_actor
#109re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/29/09 at 10:04pm

sorry, zora, I just refuse to drink from a separate water fountain just to appease the weak sensibilities of a dying majority.


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zoraksferal
#110re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/29/09 at 10:54pm

Exactly... a dying majority. Let it die as the majority before trying to push them. Why enrage when we can just wait. And CoNgRaTs on making it through the post without offending me. This shows real progress ;P Hehe.


"It doesn't work when you lick it!"

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jrb_actor
#111re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/29/09 at 10:58pm

No, thank you. I want my equal rights. I'm getting married in July 2010, and I want the 1000+ rights and protections that come with that as we continue to build our life together.

Those people you care about more than your own self (allegedly) can deal with it.


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antonijan
#112re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/30/09 at 4:14am

Overturn! Overturn!

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PalJoey
#113re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/30/09 at 7:47am

A federal judge just ruled that the names of the donors to the Prop 8 campaign cannot be kept secret.

let the sunshine in!
Court: 'Yes on 8' Donors Must Remain Public


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tazber
#114re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/30/09 at 8:20am

Excellent news!


....but the world goes 'round

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zoraksferal
#115re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/30/09 at 4:42pm

Wow, nice edging the word allegedly! You almost came across as nice! Thank god you corrected that one!

As for the Yes on 8 donors... why do we care who donated to what fund? Are we planning on boycotting them or something else that is the opposite of advancing the gay rights movement?


"It doesn't work when you lick it!"

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Mister Matt
#116re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/30/09 at 7:31pm

A gay couple doesn't need to adopt, especially if it is at the cost of the kids happiness at school or around cruel kids.

Heterosexual parents do not guarantee happiness at school or stop the cruelty of kids. And all heteros don't "need" to adopt or even procreate. I don't see how not allowing children into a loving gay home is "protecting" them, especially all those children in foster homes who come from abusive hetero families. Perhaps you have some sort of statistical evidence that children with gay parents are unhappier and are the targets of more abuse and cruelty than kids from hetero households? And why do gays specifically not "need" to adopt? Or is it just that you don't want to raise children?


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

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zoraksferal
#117re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/31/09 at 12:07am

No one needs to adopt. As for the happiness issue, did you ever go to school? Kids can be really mean, and arming them with something such as "I have two daddies" or something to that extent can be very damaging to the kid emotionally.


"It doesn't work when you lick it!"

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PalJoey
#118re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/31/09 at 12:18am

A mommy and a daddy can be damaging to a kid emotionally, but they still let het's do it.

I would think by now there would be empirical data that different-sexed parenting is damaging to children.

If not, look around.


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zoraksferal
#119re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/31/09 at 12:27am

I am referring to the specific harassment of kids because of homosexual parents. I am not saying heterosexual couples are any more qualified to raise kids.


"It doesn't work when you lick it!"

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nexttoelectric
#120re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/31/09 at 12:31am

so homosexuals shouldn't be able to raise children because other children are too mean?


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tazber
#121re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/31/09 at 12:32am

Kids harrass each other for everything. It's part of the socialization process. This is the most unfounded point you've made yet.

Do you have some sort of documented information by an impartial association that backs up your assertion?


....but the world goes 'round

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StageManager2
#122re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/31/09 at 12:37am

"No one needs to adopt."

As an adopted child, I take offense to that. Sure I wasn't adopted by a gay couple -- and mine wasn't exactly a "happy ending" -- but I'm better off than I otherwise would've been.


Salve, Regina, Mater misericordiae
Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
Salve, Salve Regina
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
O clemens O pia

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zoraksferal
#123re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/31/09 at 12:39am

No, I have no evidence... but then again, you don't have any statistical data for your point either though. And Nex, yes. That is exactly my point because I believe it is in the best interest of the kids.


"It doesn't work when you lick it!"

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tazber
#124re: California Supreme Court to Hear Prop 8 Challenge
Posted: 1/31/09 at 12:45am

Are you serious? There's no evidence that kids harrass each other? No evidence that there are social heiarchies on the playground?

So, if that's your position then it stands to reason that kids wouldn't harrass a child with two gay parents either.

You're points aren't even cogent.


....but the world goes 'round


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