If MOULIN ROUGE were released in 2005...(Oscars)...

[CapnHook]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 6:40pm

Do you think it would have beaten CRASH for Oscar? Do you think it would have been nominated at all?

Keep in mind we've had CHICAGO, so it would have been compared to that...

[colleen_lee]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 6:41pm

Uh, no.

I like Moulin Rouge, but no.

[DramaDork925]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 7:24pm

I still think (since it's my favorite movie) it should've beat A Beautiful Mind... maybe I didn't fully appreciate A Beautiful Mind, but I though Moulin Rouge was very edgy, fun and beautiful, something that stuck in my mind whereas I can't remember much about A Beautiful Mind.


To answer your question though, probably not.

Updated On: 3/8/06 at 07:24 PM

[Jane2]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 7:28pm

OMG-I couldn't sit through 20 minutes of Moulin Rouge! And I'm going to post the reason, whether produce comes flying at me or not.

The sound of Ewan McGregor's singing was such an assault on my ears that I just couldn't bear to stay very long.

[DramaDork925]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 7:31pm

I won't throw produce b/c I can see where you're coming from, but I personally love his voice.

[Allie]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 7:31pm

*loves Jane despite the abomination that was her last statement*

[Jane2]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 7:36pm

thanks Allie! I know my opinion might be the ONLY one of its kind, but I've never been known to shy away from posting what I think. Put down those baby bokchoy!

[BlueWizard]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 7:58pm

ANY of the other nominees for 2001's Best Picture should have won over A BEAUTIFUL MIND. Ech, what a manipulative, by-the-books film. That year's win was almost as big a sham as this year's CRASH.

[Kitzarina]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 7:59pm

Moulin Rouge IS my favorite movie. Still doesn't mean it would've won Best Picture.

I have discovered that Baz Luhrmann films are an acquired taste.

[BlueWizard]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 8:22pm

My opinion (not popular here) is that FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING should have won that year. Even if RETURN OF THE KING won everything and the kitchen sink two years later.

[CapnHook]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 8:24pm

Wasn't acquired for me. It was instant. MOULIN ROUGE is my favorite film of all time. Original and unique. Smart and well-written. Edgy and stylish. Beautiful and wonderful.

That year I didn't follow the race, but with my way of thinking I would have chosen it because it was new, different, well made, brilliant, edgy, and fresh.

However if it came out today, I think it wouldn't have gotten the same attention. It would have been the same, but also passive. I think it would be deemed just as campy as THE PRODUCERS...but with dramatic class instead of comedic class.

[Cruel_Sandwich]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 8:34pm

Personally, I would have given the Best Picture oscar to either The Royal Tenenbaums or Hedwig and the Angry Inch that year. (Never in a million years would that have happened; just if I were an Academy member...)

That being said, MOULIN ROUGE was a mixed bag for me. While it has some incredible production design and art direction, I can't help but feel emotionally cold by it. I appreciated it more than I liked it, mostly because Baz's directorial style can be quite distancing. That's my problem whenever I sit through a Baz flick, I don't feel anything towards the characters. Baz is not that good at genre-bending. It was a good attempt at making a musical for the MTV generation but, ultimately, ended up feeling empty.

[timote316]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 9:02pm

I can understand the arguement that Luhrmann's work is an acquired taste, but I instantly fell in love with it. The camera angles, the colors, the stylization, everything. Love it.

[Overthemoon6]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 9:06pm

I love Moulin Rouge!!

I'm not sure it would've won, but still, it's a great movie.

[Cruel_Sandwich]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 9:08pm

I'm actually rather surprised that I didn't love MOULIN ROUGE. Baz has a similar directorial style to Terry Gilliam, whom I consider to be a genius, but has not found his true rythm yet. Perhaps one day, he shall.

[Kitzarina]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 9:09pm

Baz is my favorite director. I love all 3 of his films and his production of La Boheme on Broadway was absolutely gorgeous. I adored it.

[Broadway_Baby]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 10:00pm

Kitz, I now know why I like you so much.

[TheQuibbler]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 10:07pm

I agree wih CapnHook. The moment the film started, I fell in love with it. It's my all time favorite movie, too.
Updated On: 3/8/06 at 10:07 PM

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 10:08pm

DramaDork925, you were probably way too young to appreciate A Beautiful Mind.

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 10:12pm

While I love the film (especially Ewan's voice), it is far from original. He took MANY, MANY elements and story from La Boheme and put some original ideas into it. Should it have won the Oscar that year? No. But, Baz should have have been nominated and WON for best director.

[Jane2]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 11:28pm

It's so surprising to me that I thought MR was the worst film I ever partly saw, because I am such a lover of Fellini, Lynch,Herzog, and other non traditional film makers who are heavy on surrealism, color, music, intense characters and such. Maybe it's just a Luhrman thing I don't like. I would have stayed for the entire film though, if it weren't for that awful singing. I even went and got myself some popcorn with tons of butter, thinking that would keep me in my seat longer! Oh well, each to his own!

[broadway86]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 11:46pm

I don't think A Beautiful Mind deserved the Oscar. In fact, I don't particularly care for it. I would have given Mulholland Drive Best Picture (even though it wasn't nominated!) and Baz Luhrmann Best Director.

[Jane2]

Posted: 3/8/06 at 11:50pm

Yes! Mulholland Drive was wonderful. I can't think of all the other films I saw that year. do you guys have a list in front of you, or are you just remembering?

[broadway86]

Posted: 3/9/06 at 10:54am

Jane-

In case you're itnerested, these were my personal choices from 2001.

Best Picture (Drama)
AI: Artificial Intelligence
Donnie Darko
In the Bedroom
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Mulholland Drive*

Best Picture (Musical/Comedy)
Ghost World
Legally Blonde
Moulin Rouge*
Ocean's Eleven
The Royal Tenenbaums

Best Director
Robert Altman, Gosford Park
Peter Jackson, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Baz Luhrmann, Moulin Rouge
David Lynch, Mulholland Drive*
Ridley Scott, Black Hawk Down

Best Actor (Drama)
Russell Crowe, A Beautiful Mind
Ryan Gosling, The Believer
Haley Joel Osment, AI: Artificial Intelligence
Billy Bob Thornton, The Man Who Wasn't There
Denzel Washington, Training Day
Tom Wilkinson, In the Bedroom*

Best Actor (Musical/Comedy)
Albert Brooks, My First Mister
Hugh Jackman, Kate & Leopold
Gene Hackman, The Royal Tenenbaums
Ewan McGregor, Moulin Rouge*
John Cameron Mitchell, Hedwig and the Angry Itch
Billy Bob Thornton, Bandits

Best Actress (Drama)
Halle Berry, Monster's Ball
Stockard Channing, The Business of Strangers
Nicole Kidman, The Others
Charlotte Rampling, Under the Sand
Tilda Swinton, The Deep End
Naomi Watts, Mulholland Drive*

Best Actress (Musical/Comedy)
Thora Birch, Ghost World
Kirsten Dunst, The Cat's Meow
Nicole Kidman, Moulin Rouge*
Sigourney Weaver, Heartbreakers
Reese Witherspoon, Legally Blonde
Renee Zellweger, Bridget Jones's Diary

Best Supporting Actor (Drama)
Brian Cox, L.I.E.
Ethan Hawke, Training Day
Ben Kingsley, Sexy Beast*
Jude Law, AI: Artificial Intelligence
Ian McKellen, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Tony Shaloub, The Man Who Wasn't There

Best Supporting Actor (Musical/Comedy)
Jim Broadbent, Moulin Rouge
Steve Buscemi, Ghost World*
Eddie Murphy, Shrek
Carl Reiner, Ocean's Eleven
Owen Wilson, The Royal Tenenbaums
Steve Zahn, Riding in Cars with Boys

Best Supporting Actress (Drama)
Jennifer Connelly, A Beautiful Mind
Judi Dench, The Shipping News
Cameron Diaz, Vanilla Sky
Frances O'Connor, AI: Artificial Intelligence
Uma Thurman, Tape
Marisa Tomei, In the Bedroom*

Best Supporting Actress (Musical/Comedy)
Cate Blanchett, Bandits
Anjelica Huston, The Royal Tenenbaums
Helen Mirren, Gosford Park*
Brittany Murphy, Sidewalks of New York
Gwyneth Paltrow, The Royal Tenenbaums
Maggie Smith, Gosford Park

Best Original Screenplay
Alejandro Amenábar, The Others
Wes Anderson & Owen Wilson, The Royal Tenenbaums*
Julian Fellowes, Gosford Park
Richard Kelly, Donnie Darko
Christopher Nolan, Memento

Best Adapted Screenplay
Daniel Clowes & Terry Zwigoff, Ghost World*
Todd Field & Robert Festinger, In the Bedroom
Ted Griffin, Ocean's Eleven
Steven Spielberg, AI: Artificial Intelligence
Frances Walsh, Philippa Boyens, & Peter Jackson, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring Updated On: 3/9/06 at 10:54 AM

[Wanderingchild5]

Posted: 3/9/06 at 11:29am

It wouldnt beat Crash or Brokeback