Our culture of violence- Page 3

[Yawper]

Posted: 12/17/12 at 10:32pm

Some probably do feel like that but that doesn't mean they're going to go out and shoot people or are in any way irresponsible with their guns.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 12/17/12 at 10:41pm

Right, but if something makes them snap how lucky for them (if not for the rest of us) that they're already armed.

[Jane2]

Posted: 12/17/12 at 10:48pm

"Some probably do feel like that but that doesn't mean they're going to go out and shoot people or are in any way irresponsible with their guns."

But too many ARE going out and shooting people. Almost every day I hear about a shooting on the news. That is, in addition to the mass shootings.

[Yawper]

Posted: 12/17/12 at 10:53pm

Or, if they snap, they could opt for something closer at hand, like when a piece of construction equipment was driven down a Jerusalem street by a pissed-off Palestinian.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 12/17/12 at 10:53pm

Crimes of passion are frequently committed by "responsible" gun "enthusiasts," or they find their guns used against them and then a bunch of kindergartners.

[Yawper]

Posted: 12/17/12 at 11:06pm

also frequently, and probably more frequently, guns are absent and other tools or even bare hands are used



Updated On: 12/17/12 at 11:06 PM

[Jane2]

Posted: 12/17/12 at 11:10pm

Can you cite some instances of deaths from some other tools or bare hands? And put in some where mass killings were committed that way.

[Yawper]

Posted: 12/17/12 at 11:13pm

You seriously think all homicides are gun homicides?

[Jane2]

Posted: 12/17/12 at 11:18pm

Nope, but you said even more frequently than guns are used, other tools and bare hands are used. So, you ought to be able to recall some of those instances if there are so many.

I wonder how a person can commit a mass murder with their bare hands?

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 12/17/12 at 11:22pm

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 12/17/12 at 11:24pm

In 2010 67% of homicides were committed with firearms.


That's two thirds Updated On: 12/17/12 at 11:24 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 12/17/12 at 11:29pm

Yawper. You are on the ropes. YOU need to explain why you NEED a gun. I don't think you or any of you "enthusiasts" need guns. I'd like to see each and every one of you required to have a pysch eval every six months (at your own expense) and I would like to hear exactly what good your gun ownership brings to the world.

[Yawper]

Posted: 12/17/12 at 11:41pm

I'm not on the ropes at all. You just don't like acknowledging that people are the problem, not the tools they use.

Updated On: 12/17/12 at 11:41 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 12/17/12 at 11:43pm

Guns only do one thing. Kill. That is their job, that is what they do.

What do you or people of your ilk having guns do to make the world a better place? You shouldn't have them.

[Yawper]

Posted: 12/17/12 at 11:46pm

Give it up - you're as bad as the right wingers you rail against.

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 12/18/12 at 12:03am

And you are as pathetic as any member of the NRA

[Jane2]

Posted: 12/18/12 at 12:05am

You just don't like acknowledging that people are the problem, not the tools they use.

BUT IF THERE ARE NO GUNS, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THE PROBLEM CAN'T USE THEM!!!!!! Is this mic on?????

[Eris0303]

Posted: 12/18/12 at 12:11am

I wonder how a person can commit a mass murder with their bare hands?

Ninjas maybe?

In all seriousness the only tools of MASS murder that I can think of are either guns or bombs. In my recollection there hasn't been a MASS murder that used a knife, hammer, or any other weapon.

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[Kad]

Posted: 12/18/12 at 12:24am

The only use I can think of for a gun that does not involve killing or injuring a living creature is sharpshooting.

[SNAFU]

Posted: 12/18/12 at 1:07am

When the 2nd amendment was written, The government had muskets and cannons in their arsenal. Allowing the general population to own weapons put them on equal standing with the government. Weaponry has evolved in 200 years, making that idea archaic. I am all for people being allowed fire arms. I, however am NOT for people allowed semi automatic weapons and clips that can fire 100 rounds per minute... Hell even 25 rounds per minute. The ONLY reason for those weapons to exist is to kill as many people as possible in the shortest time. Whether the owner is sane or an on the edge crackpot.
Want to argue that the government has them for the military? Fine then every citizen should be able to own a nuclear weapon and a couple drones. If the government wants to come after you they have something BIGGER!

[Kad]

Posted: 12/18/12 at 1:14am

It's also important to note that the US had no standing army when the 2nd Amendment was written. It had to rely on state militias, and the government was not able to supply them terribly well. It was beneficial to the well-being and safety of the country if its citizenry could grab the rifle from their closet and join a militia.

[SNAFU]

Posted: 12/18/12 at 1:22am

A rifle! Not a semi automatic weapon! I come from a family who liked to hunt. My dad had to in the late 20's early 30s to stave off starvation. Heard my great Grandma had the best recipe for squirrel pot pie! (tastes like chicken, I am told). I have no problem with people owning rifles and small handguns.

[bethnor]

Posted: 12/18/12 at 8:51pm

it is time to bury the absurd knife analogy once and for all.

a gun has one purpose. to as rapidly and irrevocably as possible, end another sentient life form. take note: rapidly, irrevocably. it is worth reviewing how it does this: by piercing internal organs and rupturing them, in the hopes of causing irreparable damage.

holmes, cho, the columbine shooters, lanza, had one thing in common. they were, to be frank, geeks. how many people could they have killed with a knife before they were wrestled down? one? two? and the would be victim would have a much greater chance of survival, particularly if they did not have the training to go after a vital organ.

well, this is an unacceptable situation for the would-be killer! nothing will do but to leave as many hopes and dreams shattered, twitching on the ground in a pool of their own blood and excrement as quickly and as easily as possible!

an important point also is that, with a knife, there is much greater possibility the would be mass murderer would botch the job trying to do themselves in, as in the nanny in new york. they could be taken and studied intensely, and we might have some hope to learn what caused their psychotic breakdown so that we might actually be able to predict when this happens! unfortunately, in nearly every instance save holmes, the weapons of murder turns out to be pretty good at getting them too, and all we have left is autopsy and trying to piece together history from confidential medical records.