Papa John's Pizza Obamacare Hypocrisy — Page 12

I'm not unemployed anymore, I got a seasonal job since I wasn't able to get anything else right now, it's not perfect but it's something. And you don't have to believe that I actually know and are friends with successful people who really know what they're talking about, but I do. I'm sorry that I know more interesting people than you do and you have a hard time believing that. I have no reason to lie about it. Have you not seen the list of businesses that are going to have to lay off people now that he's reelected?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/fortune-mag-thinks-1000s-of-small-banks-could-close-even-more-companies-reported-to-be-laying-off-workers-or-closing-outlets/

These are just companies who can't afford to keep all their current employees anymore. How is this helping the economy? It's not, despite what MSNBC might tell you.

...because the site owned by Glenn Beck's company is bipartisan?

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I don't know who you are talking to Abby but I am saying the only "tax hike" being discussed is a return to pre-2000 rates for people (and small businesses making more than $250,000 a year. If they were in business in 1999 they paid this proposed rate. I see NO reason they can't return to that rate. Those rates brought us spectacular economic success throughout the 90's and a budget surplus in 2000.

Abby, the source you posted is as skewed to the right.. it's owned by Glenn freakin' Beck.

That article makes false correlations, lacks citation and details, and is generally trying to cause people like you to go "LOOK SEE WHAT OBAMA HAS DONE".

It is a list of layoffs and companies closing occurring after Obama's re-election. Many of which don't even give reasons; they are included because they're recent. Just a LITTLE disingenuous, considering the article implies the election results caused this.

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he's going to have to fire some of his employees because his taxes are going to increase tremendously

Oh, so he hasn't done it yet?

Oh and precisely how much are his taxes "going to increase tremendously"?

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Updated On: 11/13/12 at 04:16 PM

So, Abby, how do you think we should pay for the wars we've been in that we couldn't afford?

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(sigh) I feel so worthless not knowing as interesting people as Abby!

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Abby is just proving herself to be a moron.

She can't answer direct questions.

She always has something snotty and condisending to say to people who don't agree with her (well, that would be everyone)

All of her information seems to come from the most biased of web sites.

Or she just makes it up!

It's funny to watch someone who is so screwed up that she can't face facts, evidence, and the truth.

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How do I not answer direct questions? I've answered your questions, you just choose not to believe my answer, even if it's absolutely true. I've asked you so many questions, and you never answer them. Like if obama is making the economy so much better why does the number of people on welfare keep going up? Because anyone with a brain would think that if the economy was getting better, there would be less people on welfare. But that's just me. I would love it if you would answer that.

There's more people on it now than under Bush, is that Bush's fault? Probably according to you, but it's not.
And where do you get your information? I don't think everything you post comes from totally unbiased sitesw, most of them come from liberal sites. You can find articles that agree with any point of view, it doesn't mean it's true. MSNBC is one of the most left leaning sites/networks around, but you believe every word even if it's total BS, which most of it is.

And other than the one website I posted on this thread, all my information has come from people who are actually going to be hurt by obama's policies, I don't just make it up like most of you do and I have no reason to lie about it. Who do I have to impress? You? Believe me, there are much more intelligent I would rather impress, I'm just trying to explain how the economy is going to continue to decline, but when you lose your jobs maybe you'll finally realize that.

And your questions about how to pay for the wars? Maybe they can start by making more people pay taxes instead of having like 5% of the population pay basically everything. Now I realize you like the "spread the wealth" idea and want everyone to be equal, but don't you understand it's the wealthy that create jobs? The more money you take away from them, the less jobs they can create. I'm not saying every wealthy person is a job creator, but it's sure not the poor who create jobs.

Also the government can cut back on useless programs, such as PBS, NPR, etc, people don't need those, they're not helping anyone, but they're still publicly funded. I realize just cutting those programs aren't going to pay for the whole war(s), but it's a start, and it's better than putting people out of jobs by raising taxes on the rich.

Truth about welfare:

"In 1996, according to the census, there were 4.4 million families receiving welfare; in 2008, it was only 1.6 million.

And when the Great Recession hit in 2008, the states began turning away people in droves; even as millions of Americans fell into poverty, the welfare rolls didn't increase, meaning that a smaller and smaller portion of America's poor families are getting cash assistance from the government.

TANF spending was set at $16.5 billion per year in the 1996 bill, where it has remained—without any adjustment for inflation—ever since."

Since you say that the number people on welfare has gone up, how do you account that the budget of TANF hasn't increased since 1996? According to a PDF that pops up (http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0565.pdf) the number of families using TANF has fallen from 3,700,000 to 1,700,000. Those are the numbers from 1980 to 2009.

Articles:
http://prospect.org/article/truth-about-welfare

UPDATE: I decided to check a few more sites that talk about welfare. Forbes has an interesting article here: http://tinyurl.com/9xwlnc8 Except the part about welfare has no citations or other links. It just says this:

# An increase of 18 million people, to 46 million Americans now receiving food stamps;
# A 122% increase in food stamp spending to an estimated $89 billion this year from $40 billion in 2008

The article was originally posted 3 months ago. Another user pointed out some other inconsistencies in the comments. I'm assuming the writer pulled the numbers out of his ass.

Updated On: 11/13/12 at 07:23 PM

PBS helps a LOT of children who do not have access to pre-school, which is unfortunately only provided universally in states like Oklahoma and Georgia.

I realize Abby has no concept of what the word "help" means. Abby, do you and or your parents make being Christians the centerpiece of your lives, by any chance?

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Little Caesars offers health insurance for their full and part-time workers while still offering $5 deals!

http://www.job-applications.com/little-caesars-benefits/

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