Red Carpet Grammy's on E Now- Page 13

[Pgenre]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 12:04am

JerseyGirl2 you are SO right and as someone who DID listen to all of the nominees, let me just reinforce the Gaga preference/love. Frankly, Jason Mraz's WE SING, WE DANCE, WE STEAL THINGS or, his most recent live album, would have been my pick but the Grammys never show Jason any love (inexplicably). I'm sure Gaga is over it, if she even gave a rat's tail in the first place.

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[NYadgal]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 12:04am

No homage. At all.

In fact, quite the opposite.

Amusing you thought it was.

N

Over and out.

[BroadwayGirl107]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 12:05am

Oh, jakebloke, don't be ridiculous. The notion that Swift owes any bit of her Grammy to Kanye West is just another one of those rationalizations people will continue to pull out of their asses because they can't accept the idea that an artist whose fanbase is primarily teenage could actually put together a stellar album and get industry respect for it. But she's gotten plenty of critical acclaim before Kanye West came into the picture, and her album stands on its own. Its in no way for everyone, and if you're not into it...fine. But there are indeed plenty of people who believe she's a fine craftswoman and musician and that her award was deserved.

[Pgenre]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 12:08am

"OUT" being the operative word.

GOOD NIGHT all, friends and otherwise!

It's been fun (and other things)!

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[singalongsong2]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 12:18am

Overall, I thought the show was very enjoyable. Lady Gaga and Elton John's performance was great. The best of the night, followed by Pink. It was nice seeing Slash on stage. I love him! I am a huge Green Day fan, so I was very happy with their win. I thought their performance with the AI cast was very good. Rebecca Naomi Jones sounded fantastic! While I like Taylor Swift, I was really hoping for Lady Gaga to nab the Record of the Year award. oh well.
Updated On: 2/1/10 at 12:18 AM

[Luscious]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 12:44am

The Fame is THE Record of the Year, regardless of who they gave the Grammy to. Taylor Swift and her music is bile inducing.

[[tos]fan999]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 1:29am

I've listened to all of the Album of the year nominees multiple times (the exception being Dave Matthews Band...never really got into them), with Taylor Swift's probably being the most, mostly because my roommate is obsessed with her and whatnot...but if you put a song like Speechless up against something like Fifteen...there's just no comparison. If Swift's whole album had only 1/2 the impact of what that one song has, I might feel differently.

Updated On: 2/1/10 at 01:29 AM

[snl89]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 1:40am

"Oh, jakebloke, don't be ridiculous. The notion that Swift owes any bit of her Grammy to Kanye West is just another one of those rationalizations people will continue to pull out of their asses because they can't accept the idea that an artist whose fanbase is primarily teenage could actually put together a stellar album and get industry respect for it. But she's gotten plenty of critical acclaim before Kanye West came into the picture, and her album stands on its own. Its in no way for everyone, and if you're not into it...fine. But there are indeed plenty of people who believe she's a fine craftswoman and musician and that her award was deserved."


I just really can't wrap my brain around WHY anyone would find Taylor's album soooooo musically well crafted. And for the record, I'm not super duper hardcore GaGa fan (though I definitely think she's crazy talented) and I actually like Taylor's music quite a bit. It's extremely catchy, very cute, and her recorded voice is sweet (sorry, but she reeally can't sing live haha).

But I just do NOT hear anything remotely groundbreaking or indicative of such critically noteworthy talent in her music. Her songs are cute and relatable, but they all tend to revolve around the same subject matter (young/unrequited love), it's a very typical pop/country sound, and her voice isn't even passable on a technical level without the help of studio equipment.

I mean, Carrie Underwood does similar music and isn't necessarily all that sophisticated musically either but at least her incredible VOICE makes her a bit more worthy of some recognition! But Taylor doesn't even have that going for her.

Now personally I prefer Taylor's album to GaGa's The Fame overall (purely a style thing- I love The Fame Monster but The Fame is just a little TOO pure dance music for me), but there is absolutely NO doubt in my mind that, if we're going based on talent and creativity, GaGa is a million times more deserving than Taylor. GaGa writes her own music just like Taylor does, but on a technical level it's MUCH MUCH more sophisticated and unique than anything Taylor writes, and she has a fantastic voice.

Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I just reeally fail to see how on ANY kind of objective level anyone could say Taylor is truly deserving of the critical acclaim she's gotten.

I mean, heck, if it's because she's so YOUNG and she's been able to pull off such success, the 1998 Grammy should have gone to Hanson! :P They were even younger than Taylor is now, they wrote all their own music too, and although it may have seemed like total fluff it was actually really solid stuff! (proven by the fact that they can do songs from Middle Of Nowhere today and they still completely hold up and are great songs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2-iy0S7-s8) Quite a bit stronger than Taylor's music, I'd say

So yeah, just saying... age alone should NOT be qualifying her to win all this critical acclaim. She's not the first young person to be a passable songwriter.


That said, I don't really think this was all due to the Kanye incident. I don't know why the critiques/voters are so in love with her!

Updated On: 2/1/10 at 01:40 AM

[BroadwayGirl107]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 8:41am

Yeah, I don't think I would have even given second place to The Fame. I like I Am...Sasha Fierce better, personally. I guess what I find so great about Swift's album is craft in simplicity. No it doesn't SOUND vastly different than some things than are already out there, but the songwriting is so vastly superior to me. Her songs are all so seamless and well-told stories rather than JUST relying on their catchy hooks and teen-friendly pop sound. I guess I don't see how a listener COULDN'T hear that. Yeah, Lady GaGa and Beyoncé experimented with some new sounds, but that's more the work of their producers than it is the bones of the songs. And in terms of a real cohesive album as a work of art, I think FEARLESS holds up best...with a theme a a young woman coming to terms with the fear and joy of realizing that the world is bigger than she ever thought it could be backing it up. I think she manages to tie unrequited love into THAT, which I think is a much more sophisticated outlook on it than many people have brought to it (yes, especially at her age). In that way, it's a great coming-of-age album. *shrug* I think they're all pretty fantastic albums and arguing about these things often seems ridiculous to me. It comes down to the aesthetic that appeals to people, how they connect with the subject matter, or just the sounds that appeal to them. The idea that one could say any on of the three women is necessarily "better" than the other is kind of silly, because what it of them brings to the table is so different than the next.


But I was just thinking this morning that I think it's pretty fabulous that what seemed like the top three contenders were all women! It was an exciting year for the gals, I guess!

[James885]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 9:34am

Although I also find Lady GaGa to be overrated, I don't think Taylor Swift was justly deserving of the award. Her album just left me very cold and I didn't find it better than The Fame or I Am...Sasha Fierce. I actually wanted the Dave Matthews Band to win.

[toanythingtaboo 2]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 11:10am

I actually thought the Red Carpet outfit made her look quite radiant, as Gaga outfits go. Really interesting idea of having a full body suit with a wig as a hood. Wasn't blown away by the performance outfit though, it was nice but she's worn very similar things before...eye patches and hairstyle included.




This one was totally nuts on a whole other level. Grace Jones in full effect.

Performance wise I thought hers was awesome, wasn't sold on the Elton John duet when I heard initially...but it totally worked. Felt she maybe tried to cram in a bit too much (set, dancers, number of songs) but it didn't really suffer. She showed off her voice without any distraction, her full on pop act and her more laid back side with the piano (which was awesome).

I saw some people wondering what was up with the blackened face/body earlier on, that's because Gaga was thrown into the furnace...so she/Elton came out covered in soot.

She did win two Grammys (Best Dance Recording - Poker Face, Best Dance/Electronic Album - The Fame) but I was shocked she didn't win Record of the Year. Poker Face is HUGE internationally, and as much as I like Kings of Leon...there song really can't compare in terms of longevity and effect on the music industry.

Taylor Swift winning was inevitable unfortunately, I thought it would be more grounded than fan-voted AMA/VMA but it seems that headquarters has been infected by temporary deafness and believing in the hype. Taylor's an alright girl with alright music, but you'd be a fool to think her music is going to stick around or have any effect on the industry beyond tweens buying her album by the sh*t load.

To be honest, I get the impression that these award shows get Gaga to perform because they know she brings ratings and hype, but they're unwilling to accept her into the 'serious' pop business of awards. She's the performing monkey that they can poke fun at, but not reward with the banana she's earned.


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[Jane2]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 11:31am

the idol worshippers who have Lady Gaga on a pedestal are kidding themselves. I love their comments such as "she's over it", "she doesn't give a crap", etc. You live inside her mind, right?

If you don't think she cares you need to wake up and realize that she's in business. Her "performance art" is to get attention. She sure does want to win awards, thus increasing sales of her music and her own income. You guys think she's only in it for art's sake? I hate to burst your bubble.

[Marianne2]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 11:51am

^ I can agree with that.

Part of the reason I don't care for Lady Gaga's music that much is because it sounds very repetitive to me. But, with her style of outfits, I just wonder how much staying power she has because she seems to have started out all the way in that department. She would really have to find something so ridiculously original to keep shocking people.

[James885]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 11:58am

I don't really have a problem with her, it's just that I don't get all the hype about her. IMO her music is good, but it's not great. There's nothing about it that makes me go "Oh my gosh this is outstanding".

It's funny cause a couple of people that I watched the Grammys with last night are hard-core Gaga fans. One of them actually referred to her as a 'musical genius.' They were really pissed when she lost out on the big awards and then after the show was over one of them causally remarked that 'she doesn't care about awards anyway".

Like I said, I just don't get all the hype surrounding her.

[Marianne2]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 12:03pm

And Lady Gaga has just shocked me again. I didn't realize that she's only 23. Or is Wikipedia wrong? I just assumed she was in her 30's.

[Jane2]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 12:27pm

"one of them causally remarked that 'she doesn't care about awards anyway".


Well then, the worshipper shouldn't care either. Geniuses don't want awards.

[bdwaygirl]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 12:55pm

Yep, she's 23.

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[toanythingtaboo 2]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 1:32pm

Yeah, I don't really buy into the 'not caring about awards' thing. She definitely strikes me as quite a sensitive girl under all the performance, who's been treated as an outsider all her life and just wants to be accepted/respected by her peers...it's just that now it's the music bigwigs/media and not the popular kids at school. I'm not saying that's redeeming or a weakness, it's just a very human thing to feel.

She may not dwell on it much though, awards really aren't everything...and if you have the kind of success Gaga has, you can't really blame her for just carrying on doing what she's doing. Besides, it's hardly like she's malnourished on the award front...couple of VMA's here and a couple of Grammys there are nothing to snort at.

Plus, It depends really what you regard as a 'musical genius'. Personally, I wouldn't go that far but you have to judge her as what she is at the end of the day, which is a pop star. She isn't a musical prodigy with infinite classical talents and countless octave singing range, she's a pop star. She's an incredibly talented pop star who sings well, dances, has amazing creative vision, plays classical piano, went to an arts school and writes all her own music. She leaves many of her peers in the dust in that respect.

It's easy to say '_____ is a musical legend, Gaga will never be like that' because you have the gift of hindsight, I highly doubt anyone would have said that MJ/The Beatles/Madonna etc. would become what they have, only a year into their careers. Not saying she will, but you can't really dismiss her just because you don't 'get' or dislike her.


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[Jane2]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 1:56pm

"but you can't really dismiss her just because you don't 'get' or dislike her. "

Why can't they?

[strummergirl]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 2:24pm

How did she walk?

[toanythingtaboo 2]

Posted: 2/1/10 at 8:13pm

You can dismiss her in the sense of not liking her, everyones personal taste is valid...but when people essential say 'I don't get/like her, therefore she is nothing special and will amount to little' is daft.

Nobody knows what she'll become, she definitely has it in her to be great...but that doesn't mean she will. The industry is far too unpredictable.

Britney, for instance, has become a global icon in music...but she's hardly 'worthy' of it when you measure up talent to success. I doubt many people heard 'Hit Me Baby One More Time' and thought 'Wow. She will be one of the best selling female artists in history'.