Ivan, I am sure it is easier for you to just leave a flat fee ($5 or $10) than it is for your little mind to figure out a percentage, but if the most you leave in ANY restaurant is $10 I hope that the nicest place you eat is I-HOP. Of course, that is assuming you ever pay.
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
madbrian, I know what you're saying and I'm the first to admit that my thoughts are this are seen through the prism of my years as a waiter. Yes, no waiter should EXPECT anything, but the fact remains that the way this system works is no surprise to anyone, and I've seen plenty of people go out to eat, spend a buttload of money, get decent service and leave a really crappy tip. I see nice people go out to eat, drink and eat a ton, and then - with some degree of chagrin - say they can't afford to leave a tip appropriate to what they spend.
If you cant afford to leave 20%, then dont go out to eat.
I start at 20% and round up for good to very good service.
I start deleting for neglectful service and bad attitudes...if I have a problem with another staff member, or the food, or anything other than the service, I tell the manager...but I dont take it out on the wait staff. I often give more to a new waiter who is trying, even if the actual service may suffer...it's tough being the newbie in a restaurant.
I also make sure the table leaves a good tip
In my book, a waiter can actually make or break a dining experience. If they are truly exceptional, I've been known to leave 30%, but definitely start at 20%. Like Doodle, I start deducting for bad service, bad attitude, etc.
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/30/05
"But you don't tip people at McDonald's! The next time we go to Wendy's, you better tip them."
"I've seen plenty of people go out to eat, spend a buttload of money, get decent service and leave a really crappy tip."
I've never done that, and in fact, when my kids were younger I used to tip a lot because kids require additional attention, but their meals don't usually add that much to the bill.
I don't go out to eat unless I can afford a good tip.
If I server is good, I usually give at least 20%. An extra dollar means little to me, but it adds up quickly for a waiter.
If the server is bad, I'll do 10%. I've done less for really horrible service.
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I tip based on service. It's that simple. If I get good service, I tip 20%, if not-it's less. If the service is truly horrible, or the server rude, etc, nothing.
Since I do not tip the counter person at Walgreen's, my dry cleaners, or the staff at my Vet office, I would never tip a McDonald's employee.
Tips, are earned in my opinion.
Never leave a tip that cannot be folded in half.
so true sueleen. Leaving change is just spiteful. Leave nothing rather than coins.
so...dont leave my jar of pennies?
I usually go for the 20%, add more if it's great service, take off if it's not or if I had a small meal--like luncheon.
I have had GREAT service and we left a huge tip..and I've overtipped hunky pizza guys.
I always tip delivery guys and sometimes tip take out--maybe a dollar or so--if they remember you, they'll take care of you first and fast next time--and who can say no to that?
Actually, I prefer tipping cows.
Fantastic service: 25 percent
Above average service: 20 percent
Below average service: 15 percent
Abysmal service when there appears to be no mitigating factors: 10 percent
Sitting at a diner for a long time, just drinking coffee and taking up space: 150 percent
Waiter calls me a faggot: 0 percent and a note to management
Updated On: 2/12/08 at 01:13 PM
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/29/05
I waited tables for years, so I tend to be generous if the effort is there. I also strongly believe there is no excuse for a waiter to treat a table poorly. This is a customer service job, and customer service is part of the package.
I generally START at 20% and go up or down from there. Good service gets 20%. Extra effort or a truly exceptional experience gets more than 20%, up to 30%. Less than good service - I start deducting from the 20%. I rarely go below 15% unless the waiter really offends me in some way. But if he apologizes and makes up for it, I will start adding back on.
For example, I had a 10:30 p.m. reservation at a fine dining establishment that I frequent often. I brought out of town guests with me to this partciular event. The moment we sat down, our waiter (new guy whom I had never seen before) informed us with a sigh and a snotty tone that the restaurant was actually closed and that he would "take care of us," (as if he was doing us a favor) but he had to get our orders in "right away." The restaurant advertises that the kitchen is open until midnight, so this fool was way off. I explained that I had a reservation, and fully expected the restaurant to be open and that I would like to speak to the manager. The waiter apologized and I got dessert on the house. So he got 15%, but not more, for embarassing me, a frequent patron, in front of my guests. I will not reward poor or patronizing service (the waiter has a job to do), but I do not stiff.
Important to keep in mind...in many places, including where I live, WAITERS DO NOT MAKE MINIMUM WAGE. It is a common misconception that they do. Waiters make about $2.00 and change per hour. Factor in taxes, and most of the time, the "paycheck" he or she receives each week reads anywhere from $0 to $10.00. I hope people understand that tips are how waitstaff make a living. Like I said, they also need to hold up their end of the bargain with good customer service. But tips are customary in the United States, and are expected.
ETA: For take out, it depends. I'll throw a dollar or two in the jar at Starbucks if I have a large order. I always tip the pizza delivery guy a few bucks (more if it's snowing).
Updated On: 2/12/08 at 01:16 PM
%20 - Good Service
%15 - Adequate Service
%10 - Indifferent Service
Zero - Terrible Service
And keep in mind that the servers often have to tip out the bar, runners and bussers BASED ON THEIR SALES. So if you leave a small tip or no tip they end up PAYING to wait on YOU.
i always leave 20% unless the service was extremely bad. then i'll leave 15%. i feel bad not tipping. they make like $3 an hour.
I've never understood why restaurants are allowed to operate like that.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
I only tip 'em if they're cute.
Waiting on YOU, DP, would be tip enough for any servant.
My philosophy on tipping is "There but for the grace of the goddess go I."
I'm a pushover, and start at 20%, regardless of service quality. I know, I know...but I can't imagine how terrible being a waiter can be sometimes.
The thing is: The most obnoxious people you have to deal with usually are going to be the ones who tip you the least. So the most difficult work yields the worst rewards.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/11/04
Every time my family goes out to eat, the waiter starts at 20%. If the waiter does anything rude or anything like that, the percent starts to drop.
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