clinton vs. sanders your vote? — Page 15

Hills takes the Subaru to the farmer's market every Sunday.

I feel like even Subaru Hills would vote for Bernie.

I support HRC and have every intention of donating to her campaign and voting for her. But, based on that article, how do you make the leap to "She will be the most progressive American president since Franklin Roosevelt"? Was there anything more substantive in her speech?

There is no proof that she will be "progressive." Everyone thought the same of Obama, as well, and he was a complete failure with both Wall Street (no prosecutions) and international justice. In fact, Obama is amazingly responsible for more civilian deaths (5,000+) than George W. Bush (2,500+) through the expanded drone strike program since 2009. It is shocking how little the administration is criticized for its excessive use of illegal drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and elsewhere. Obama was against our antics in the Middle East. Hillary was for it. She is more hawkish than Obama. She will not be "progressive." Especially when she is too busy paying back her crony donors from Wall Street.

All of that being said, I give her credit for one novel economic idea that has never been discussed by any other candidate: tax incentives for corporations that will offer profit-sharing packages to its employees. I think that is actually a really great idea.

LBJ's resume includes Civil Rights, Voting Rights, and Medicare. Again, I plan on voting for her, but I don't see her achieving anything like that. There's nothing in her past to indicate as such, and while she may be tacking to the left in recent speeches, I just don't see her as a progressive POTUS.

But.... but... where's that progressivism that PJ was just carrying on about?!?!

Updated On: 7/13/15 at 04:23 PM

I don't believe Alan Blinder is speaking for Hillary. She hasn't decided on the Glass Steagall issue yet.

Either way--and I hope she restores it--she'll STILL be the most progressive president since Roosevelt!

"In essence, Hillary Clinton is asking America’s progressives to trust her. She is offering sentiment without specifics. For the voting bloc that does not have enough money to make campaign donations large enough to whisper in Hillary Clinton’s ear, that is not going to be enough."

Hillary Clinton Tells Progressives: Trust Me, Trust Me, Trust Me

I usually hate Gawker, but that article is so on point. Hillary's attitude towards progressives seems to be to toss a placating verbal piece of scrap every now and then. The problem is, we are too huge--and too wary--to be soothed by empty words. She's running this campaign like it's 1996.

" She's running this campaign like it's 1996."

And that's why she is going to lose.

Interesting breakdown from FiveThirtyEight, Nate Silvers' site, on the "invisible primary". FiveThirtyEight claims that political endorsements (from representatives, senators and governors) are the best indicators of a candidate's success during a Presidential primary.

"In presidential primaries, endorsements have been among the best predictors of which candidates will succeed and which will fail. So we’re keeping track." The endorsements are weighted from most important (Governors) to least (Representatives). Hillary currently has 243 endorsement points. Bernie has zero.

Jeb is leading the Repubs with 18 points.

I have no illusions of her being a true progressive, though I do think she will be a heck of a lot more progressive than a President Hillary Clinton of 2008 would have been. She's also something that seems to rankle purists on both on the right and left - a skilled politician. Yes, there's a bit of snake oil saleswoman involved in that process - but despite the cries of "BENGHAZI!" from nutjobs on the right, of all the announced, probable and possible Democratic candidates, I believe she would have chance of forming true Exec/Leg partnerships and actually moving forward on meaningful legislation. She seemed to be well liked by her colleagues on both sides of the aisle in her Senate days.

Bernie, I love, and, yes, his platform and views align more closely with my core beliefs and, yes, his gains in early polls and his big crowds have been impressive, but I'm still not convinced of his ability to go beyond this early buzz.

Raising $15 million in small donations and drawing crowds of 10,000 in liberal environs like Madison certainly isn't nothing, but I'm also not sure it will add up to much in the end.

I want a winner in 2016.