clinton vs. sanders your vote? — Page 19

Erikj972 and other Sanders-ites live in a fantasy world, where Bernie will be able to magically change things with the wave of his wand... or something.

Earlier this month, a meme of Sanders' "11-Step Economic Plan" (link below) was making the rounds on Facebook. It reads more like a wish list than an actual plan. He has some good ideas, but it's not pragmatic. His ardent supporters can't seem to get that should Bernie become president, he won't be able to make those things magically happen without a Democratic/Liberal congress... which he won't have. If you think that Congress was obstructionist and difficult for Obama... they'd grind Bernie into powder. America will never transition to a socialist economic system by one man running for POTUS. There is only so much any POTUS can do. He is legally, Constitutionally limited. He needs a Congress who can work with him and courts that will uphold his positions and policies. Our Constitution, our system of government, upholds our capitalist economy. So unless you get rid of the whores in Congress, and limit the amount of influence Corporations have on government (which the SCOTUS upholds), you will never see even a quarter of what Bernie believes should happen.

Furthermore, Bernie gives non-answers in interviews. He sounds like a grumpy old man spouting the same talking points everyone else does. For instance, he said that the way to stop these mass shootings is to make sure that the mentally ill don't get their hands on a weapon. He was asked, "Well, how do we do that?" He totally ditched the questioned and went rambling onto something else. His appearance at Netroots Nation showed how completely out of touch he is with the process of a Presidential running. He had no clue as to how to handle a protestor asking meaningful questions. He was arrogant and dismissive. Many of his supporters retaliated by posting racist screeds. Something that could have been a simple mistake was turned into a utter disaster. And we haven't gotten to any of the debates yet!

In short, Bernie is a cult hero. I can see these supporters becoming disillusioned with Bernie as they did with Obama, when he didn't bring about the revolutionary change he'd promised. So what did they do? They sat out the 2010/2014 midterms, which gave us a Republican majority in Congress.

"His ardent supporters can't seem to get that should Bernie become president, he won't be able to make those things magically happen without a Democratic/Liberal congress... which he won't have. If you think that Congress was obstructionist and difficult for Obama... they'd grind Bernie into powder."

LOL when you start to think you know what other people are thinking you're getting into Headband territory. I'm not someone who is naive about how the political process works. And what you are describing is not in line with my thinking. You should stick to your own opinions instead of making up fictional opinions for other people.

And your assertion that Sanders never answers questions is pretty hilarious.

"AMERICANS WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A SOCIALIST JEW."

That's a quote from one of your posts in this thread PJ.

And that CNN poll seems to prove that Bernie could indeed beat a Koch backed Republican like Scott Walker.

Seems more likely than Hillary following through on one of her crowd-pleasing postures.

This week's poll is taken at a moment when the GOP is more split than it ever has been before?

All of those GOP candidates are universally unpopular.

Trump will flame out, the 17 candidates will narrow down to 4 or 5, there will be a series of primaries, and the GOP will coalesce behind a center-right candidate, and the Koch Brothers will use their advertising millions to make that candidate popular.

If Bernie is still able to beat the GOP at that point, I will eat my hat.

That's why I'm for Hillary.

I would vote for Joe Biden.

There's Something About Bernie

If the NYT has written one positive or even objective thing about Bernie Sanders, I'm afraid I haven't seen it.

They're saying Biden's decision will be made in September. I'd vote for Biden in a heartbeat.

Bernie Sanders Clearly In Pocket Of High-Rolling Teacher Who Donated $300 To His Campaign

^ Absolutely fascinating. Looking forward to seeing that.

At the risk of nit-picking, no one is in favor of abortion. Many of his supporters are in favor of a woman's right to choose.

Who knows? It is interesting, however, that they don't show up for Hillary or any of the GOP's candidates.