clinton vs. sanders your vote?- Page 18

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 7/22/15 at 5:22pm

I've already explained that. 

So you disagree with Planned Parenthood's own statement apologizing for the tone of their employees in the heavily-edited video? That makes absolutely no sense. Planned Parenthood apologized while still reminding people that the video was heavily edited. Sanders merely agreed with, and supported, PP's decision to make a public apology for the tone of the employees on the video. 

[PalJoey]

Posted: 7/22/15 at 5:31pm

_{So you disagree with Planned Parenthood's...}

Don't be silly. Putting words in people's mouths is just one of the many, many ways in which you are annoying.

Here's a helpful tip from yr pal Joey: Any sentence you type that begins with the phrase "So you think..." or "So you say..." is automatically WRONG.

The reason people think of you as a troll is that you act like a troll.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 7/22/15 at 5:51pm

The band is this board's equivalent of the people who keep making Planned Parenthood sting videos.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 7/23/15 at 12:05am

When Fox News asks you what you think of the "tone," just say:

 

[PalJoey]

Posted: 7/23/15 at 12:13am

Here's how the GOP intends to make the killing of Planned Parenthood their 2016 rallying cry.

This may be the scariest thing you ever read: scary because they intend to roll back Roe v. Wade.

 

POLITICO: Planned Parenthood does damage control as GOP demands answers The issue could move front and center as Republican lawmakers try to score political points

[HorseTears]

Posted: 7/23/15 at 3:30am

This is going to fire up their base, of course, but will cost them dearly with female voters in the general election.  I'm less worried about a national anti-abortion movement than about how this PR coup for the right will embolden more restrictive anti-abortion tactics in red states.  

[PalJoey]

Posted: 7/23/15 at 9:23am

I'm very worried about an erosion of women's choice all over the country. The millennials who overwhelmingly support marriage equality do NOT equally support abortion rights. Conservatives will be conducting state-by-state efforts to overturn these rights simultaneously with national efforts to overturn Roe v. Wade. They are looking at our two-track approach to winning gay marriage as a model for what they intend to do to Roe.

It's one of the biggest reasons why it's important to vote for the Supreme Court when you cast your vote for president.

Updated On: 7/23/15 at 09:23 AM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 7/23/15 at 9:41am

But, PalJoey, aren't they all exactly the same?  That's what I heard.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 7/23/15 at 1:53pm

They're also going to be coming after The Gays.

 

HUFFINGTON POST: MICHELANGELO SIGNORILE: The GOP Plan to Stoke Anti-Gay Bigotry in 2016

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 7/23/15 at 2:37pm

Seems like old times!  I wonder if one can say this is a profound way they're not all exactly the same?  Just wond'rin'.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 7/23/15 at 5:38pm

BARNEY FRANK: Why Progressives Shouldn’t Support Bernie: Wishful thinking won’t win the White House

[South Florida]

Posted: 7/23/15 at 10:16pm

The "lock" that PJ saw happening is crumbling before his eyes and he might have to admit like the Fonz, "I was wrrrrrr, I wasn't exactly right.  This is no walkover election for HC, and yeah we're worried about the SC.

Updated On: 7/23/15 at 10:16 PM

[South Florida]

Posted: 7/23/15 at 10:23pm

We need to make it compulsory that people vote.  This country is so far backward the incrementalism is agonizing.

 

[javero]

Posted: 7/24/15 at 12:09am

"The GOP wants Hillary to do what Bernie did. So far she hasn't. But her response to Mitch McConnell contained a not-so-veiled reference it when she said that the gender card was played 'every time Republicans vote against giving women equal pay, deny families access to affordable child care or family leave, refuse to let women make decisions about their health or have access to free contraception.'"

Well played HRC!

Mixing sports analogies, that was a fumbled kickoff return on Bernie's part and an intercepted pass from McConnell.  All HRC has to do at this point is stay on her skates for the win.  She's as corporatist as they come but she's got my damn vote.

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 7/24/15 at 7:02am

" She's as corporatist as they come..."

Yup!

"WASHINGTON -- In the early campaign money race for the 2016 presidential election, executives and employees of big bank institutions are lining up behind three candidates: Democrat Hillary Clinton and Republicans Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio.

 

Clinton, the former secretary of state and New York senator, leads all candidates, with $432,610 from big banks' executives, employees and their spouses. This includes banks like JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Goldmans Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Citigroup, UBS, Barclays, Credit Suisse and Deutsche Bank."

Wall Street Is Putting Money Behind These Presidential Candidates

[PalJoey]

Posted: 7/24/15 at 10:12am

"Corporatist" is a facile pejorative, vague and scary, a word that seems to accuse her of shadowy secret deals that will never see the light of day but will hurt you, hurt you, hurt you till they bleed you dry.

Truth of the matter is that as long as those moneys are allowed by U.S. law, I would rather Hillary get them than Marco or Jeb.

Meanwhile--and more important--Hillary got more clear about Planned Parenthood yesterday:

“It is unfortunate that Planned Parenthood has been the object of such a concerted attack for so many years, and it’s really an attack against a woman’s right to choose, to make the most personal difficult decisions that any woman would face.”

Hillary also endorsed the "Equality Act," introduced yesterday by Democratic senators Jeff Merkley of Oregon and Democratic Representative David Cicilline of Rhode Island, which would amend the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to add sex, sexual orientation and gender identity to the list of protected classes, which currently consists of race, color, sex, religion and national origin.

Hillary tweeted:

"The Equality Act will mean full federal equality for LGBT Americans & stronger anti-discrimination protections for everyone. Past time. -H"

 

[PalJoey]

Posted: 7/24/15 at 10:30am

Here are the details of what Hillary is proposing to do to reform Wall Street. It may not seem like enough to those who are clamoring to bring back Glass-Steagall, but it will undoubtedly help middle-class workers.

It might also, in the end, do more to reverse the current business climate in which bottom lines and profits are more important than employees.

It's all about increasing the capital-gains rate on short-term profits--the kind that are made by investors--and incentivizing long-term investments. It's complicated but worth a read:

In part, it is a strategy of necessity. Clinton will never go far enough left to satisfy the hardcore Elizabeth Warren wing of the Democratic Party, the thinking in her camp goes. But she can lay out a fresh set of policies addressing “quarterly capitalism” — a phrase coined by McKinsey & Co.’s Dominic Barton — that will open a fresh chapter in the debate about why incomes aren’t rising for average workers. Clinton began the process with proposals on employee profit-sharing and will continue it on Friday.

“This debate really isn’t from a left-wing, right-wing prospective,” said Neera Tanden, president of the Center for American Progress and an informal Clinton adviser who has written with investment banker Blair Effron of the need to shift corporate thinking to long-term investment. “CEOs, many of whom are card-carrying Republicans, like this kind of incentive structure.”

Clinton will propose that investors who sell shares within a year continue to pay the ordinary income rate, which runs as high as 39.6 percent. But she will propose changing current law which allows investors who hold stocks for as little as a year and one day to pay the capital gains rate, which only rises as high as 23.8 percent for the highest income bracket. Clinton advisers would not comment on exactly what top rate Clinton would propose or how long investors would need to hold shares to qualify for the lowest capital gains rate.

The idea behind the changes is to reduce pressure on executives to maximize shareholder value in the short-term by doing things like buying back stock and paying large dividends. This would theoretically free them to use their vast cash reserves to invest in new plants, equipment and employees. One of the biggest problems facing the U.S. economy right now — cited by analysts on both the left and the right — is the unwillingness of corporate America to make long-term investments.

POLITICO: Hillary Clinton’s Wall Street hedge She will call for tax hike on short-term gains

Updated On: 7/24/15 at 10:30 AM

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 7/24/15 at 10:56am

It doesn't even come close to being enough.

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 7/27/15 at 9:36am

"

The Wall Street ties of two top aides to Hillary Clinton at the State Department are raising concerns among progressives about the composition of a future Clinton White House.

The former aides, Tom Nides and Robert Hormats, have shuttled between government and Wall Street for years. Nides, who is frequently described as a Clinton confidant, is a longtime Morgan Stanley executive who served as deputy secretary of state for management and resources from 2011 to 2013 before returning to Morgan Stanley. Nides is also the former chairman of the Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association (Sifma), the main lobbying group for Wall Street in Washington DC.

Hormats, a former vice-chairman of Goldman Sachs, served as under secretary of state for economic growth, energy and the environment from 2009 to 2013. He is currently vice-chairman of Kissinger Associates, the consulting firm founded by the former secretary of state Henry Kissinger.

Neil Sroka, a spokesman for the progressive advocacy group Democracy for America, expressed his angst about the influence of the two in Clinton world. “It’s hard to imagine how a presidential candidate is going to seriously confront the powerful, greed-driven interests on Wall Street when they’re taking advice and staffing cabinet posts with people who just clocked out of the same big banks and investment firms that made bundles from wrecking our economy,” Sroka said."

Hillary Clinton aides' Wall Street links raise economic policy doubts

[PalJoey]

Posted: 7/29/15 at 2:50pm

The war on Planned Parenthood continues. Once they have killed it, they will start on Roe v. Wade.

A third edited video was released--this is a concerted campaign, you know--and Rand Paul demanded that Hillary return the campaign contributions she received from them. He said her hands were "stained."

Hillary was forced to answer a gotcha question about whether she had seen the videos, but she maintained her support of Planned Parenthood:

 

“I have seen pictures from them and obviously find them disturbing....Planned Parenthood for more than a century has done a lot of really good work for women: cancer screenings, family planning, all kinds of health services. And this raises not questions about Planned Parenthood so much as it raises questions about the whole process, that is, not just involving Planned Parenthood, but many institutions in our country. And if there’s going to be any kind of congressional inquiry, it should look at everything and not just one [organization].”

POLITICO: Hillary Clinton: Planned Parenthood videos 'disturbing'

[StageManager2]

Posted: 7/29/15 at 8:46pm

Grassroots Dems love Sanders. They just don't think he can win.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/democratic-activists-2016_55b79a65e4b0074ba5a62a48?

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 7/29/15 at 9:42pm

Odd considering a CNN national poll has Sanders beating all the major GOP candidates

[PalJoey]

Posted: 7/29/15 at 10:22pm

Um...that poll has Hillary over Bernie 57% to 18% with Democrats and Democratic-leaning Independents.

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 7/30/15 at 6:52am

"AMERICANS WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A SOCIALIST JEW."

Um...that poll has Bernie Sanders beating Trump, Bush, and Walker in a national election. So I think it's time to put the Americans will never vote for Bernie Sanders argument to rest.

Anyway...back to Planned Parenthood.

"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Wednesday accused congressional Republicans of falling in with a "long-term smear campaign" to defund Planned Parenthood.

"The attempt by Senate Republicans to cut off support for Planned Parenthood is an attack on women’s health," Sanders said in a statement. "The current attempt to discredit Planned Parenthood is part of a long-term smear campaign by people who want to deny women in this country the right to control their own bodies."

His comments contrast with remarks from Hillary Clinton who told the New Hampshire Union Leader that “I have seen pictures from them and obviously find them disturbing." 

 

“Planned Parenthood is answering questions and will continue to answer questions," she added.

 

 Sanders blames push to defund Planned Parenthood on 'smear campaign'

[artscallion]

Posted: 7/30/15 at 7:35am

I think the issue is not so much whether Sanders can win. It's a matter of whether he has enough $$ to sustain a prolonged primary followed by the general campaign. Right now he does not. That could change, but having polls say he can beat any of the GOP candidates does not mean that he actually can beat any of the GOP candidates.

That said, I like Sanders and am glad he's running. His presence forces some tough issues onto the table that might not make it there were it only the more political politicians running. Any success he has also brings us that much closer to the day when we have more than just an R and D to choose from.