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PalJoey - who do you think would be HRC's VP?

So do I, especially since Booker is now in the Senate.

It would be fun to watch actually.

Castro would help Clinton in both Florida and Texas (IMO) but not sure what it would do in Ohio. Those red states Clinton would never win to begin with would stay red.

You're determined to help a Republican win.

Whose prevailing winds are blowing your sails this afternoon, ever-so Florida?

Hillary Clinton's Take on Banks Won't Hold Up

The Democratic frontrunner seems to be counting on America's ignorance about the 2008 crash

"Hillary, like her close advisor Barney Frank, has been pushing an idea that banks aren't at the root of any financial instability problem. Last night, she pointed a finger instead at "shadow banking," non-bank actors like AIG, and a dead investment bank in Lehman Brothers. (Interesting she didn't mention a still-viable investment bank like Goldman, Sachs, which has hosted her expensive speaking engagements.)

This squeamishness about criticizing banks is laughable to people in the industry. But of course, that's probably the point – that the average voter won't know how absurd and desperate it is to point to faceless "shadow" financiers as villains when the real bad guys are famed mega-firms that are right out in the open, with their names plastered all over every second city block.

...Whether or not you think Hillary Clinton plans on doing anything to fix Wall Street corruption really comes down to your read on her intentions. Both regulators and criminal prosecutors already have enormous theoretical power over the market. They're not particularly handicapped by a lack of regulatory tools. The issue is how much political will a future executive plans on exerting.

By going out of her way to downplay the influence of bank corruption, Hillary is probably signaling that she doesn't plan on leaning into the reform effort all that much. This is consistent with her history as a politician who has accepted an enormous amount of money from Wall Street (both in donations and speaking fees) and has surrounded herself with policy advisors who in many cases bear primary responsibilityfor the very messes we're talking about.

It's smart politics, well thought-out. Or is it? The modern Democratic Party seems forever to be looking for nuance, when taking a stand would do just as well. Let gay people be soldiers, don't invade the wrong country, break up dangerous banks. An idea isn't automatically bad just because it's simple.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/hillary-clintons-take-on-banks-wont-hold-up-20151014#ixzz3ofCJaVNk

Updated On: 10/15/15 at 02:43 PM

"When Sanders gets on a roll, I keep picturing Larry David doing the voice of George Steinbrenner with George Costanza trying to slowly inch out of his office..."

I hear Jackie Mason being the aardvark.

"...he'll get better."

Nope.

Learn something every year, John Byner was the voice of the aardvark, he was imitating Jackie Mason. Someone put Bernie's accent as the guy in the deli complaining his pastrami was too fatty, liked that. Don't think he's nutty about guns, I think he stands for things that have a possibility of happening in the near future. We're not going to end gun access all at once.

I have to admit I don't get a lot of references in here.

ErikJ972 - I'm actually surprised that Bernie didn't take the opportunity to go after Hillary on the points raised in that Rolling Stone article. Her coziness and soft touch with banks (both real and perceived) could be a potential weakness. It's definitely something he should be prepared to do at the next debate. I appreciate his civility and his aversion to "negative" campaigning, but if his message is just going to be about policy and not about differentiating himself from the front runner, what is he doing at this point?