I agree, DG2 is quite an irritating poster. Leave Avenue Q alone! If Caroline or Change had won the Tony, you'd be all over that show.
And what about international rights?
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The original poster does. And all the people who went to the Golden all these months and made the show recoup like it, too. To put it in language you'll understand, Avenue Q is pop-U-lar. Get over it. Updated On: 8/3/04 at 03:29 PM
DefyingGravity2, first of all, both Avenue Q and Wicked have their flaws. Secondly, I'd like to see what high schooler could belt out Elphaba's songs - correctly, no less - and still be able to speak the next day. Thirdly, there is no reason to attack someone because they want to do a show you happen to dislike. Updated On: 8/3/04 at 03:33 PM
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Don't bother, ShbrtAlley. Some people aren't confident enough in the merits of their favorite shows to believe they're good without putting down other people's favorites.
Hate to "Defy" you "Gravity," and bust your "Bubble" but Wicked also requires two extraordinarily gifted leads --- one, in particular who needs to belt/sing like there's no friggin tomorrow. Also, it is a female driven show. Fiyero, Baq and The Wizard roles are miniscule, with very little stage time compared to the leads. Their numbers are not breakout numbers like those of Glinda and Elphaba. Plus, Wicked is a big flashy scenery and costume driven show at heart. I would love to see a high school put on such a show with incredible scenery, costumes and awesome amazing female leads to boot. Unfortunately, schools with budgets like those are nonexistant, and singing a role like Elphaba night after night (remember, long rehearsal period in high school - short run, but you can kill your voice simply practicing).
This is getting kinda rediculous; how did a simple question about the rights of a popular musical turn into yet-another Tony debate? (and you know it all comes down to that win.)
Here's my opinion on the subject at hand: both Avenue Q and Wicked would be hard to do, for completely different reasons. The pros and cons:
- For Avenue Q, you need: a) extremely skilled puppeteers, and b) a small but very talented ensemble. Every character onstage has a large and distinct role, and sometimes a performer would have to do two, even at once (ie. Kate Monster and Lucy T. Slut fighting - both voiced by the same actor). There are no small, "easy" parts in Avenue Q.
- However, with a fixed set and no lavish costumes, it's not a technical show, so that part's easy.
- Wicked is a very technical, visual show, so you'd need the lavish production values and special effects.
- On the other hand, with the show's large ensemble, an amateur theatre group could pull off having an ok-chorus (albeit you'll need some hefty voices for the two leads).
But these views are based on our current interpretation of Wicked and Avenue Q. Who knows, maybe someone could stage a minimalist Wicked or an Avenue Q with robotic puppets.
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Robotic puppets? I think that high school kids would be able to develop minimal competence with puppets over a long rehearsal period. But what do I know; I've never tried. Someone should ask an Avenue Q cast member how long it took them.
And maybe a high school version of the show could split Tartaglia, D'Abruzzo, and Lyons' parts up to make things easier (and allow for a larger cast.)
But I think both shows would have serious issues with a high school transfer. The poster who pointed out how vocally rigorous the two leading parts for Wicked are was dead right. You don't burden 18-year-olds with that kind of vocal load.
"Avenue Q is pop-U-lar. Get over it."
HAHA...your a funny one, Plum
why would it be necissary to split up the puppet parts exactly? doing 2-3 voices.....WOW thats incredibly difficult! So theres concern over puppet skills instead of the laundry list of high school theater word and scene no no's
doing 2-3 voices.....WOW thats incredibly difficult!
It is when you're doing them practically at the same time (I'm talking about the heated exchange between Kate and Lucy). And when it means you'll pretty much be onstage for the entire time, as one character or another.
Not that a high school would put on Avenue Q anyway. Can you imagine what the parents would think about their kids simulating puppet sex during "You Can Be As Loud as the Hell You Want"?
re-reading my post, DAMN i was cranky... what i said still holds true though unless i am just very good at doing multiple voices i've never had much trouble
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I am aware that part of the charm and appeal of Avenue Q is in the puppets, but couldn't it be done without them?
Now before people freak out lol, please be advised that I haven't seen the show, I have only heard the CD. It just seems to me that a puppet-less Avenue Q might be intrigueing. Yes, the puppets make it better, but with costumes, actors might be able to pull it off.
I feel like a fight. What show deserved the Tony? WICKED or AVENUE Q?
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