Anyone OVER 'Hamilton' without even seeing it?

Posted: 1/18/16 at 9:24pm

I feel I am.

There is just WAY TOO MANY articles written on Hamilton.

Hamilton has a lottery show, hamilton does online clip, Hamilton visits a statue of Hamilton, Hamilton is recording a show, Hamilton sings to a teacher, Hamilton tweets about life, hamilton sells fake tickets of Hamilton on Craigslist,...  Hamilton farts......

(And this was just this week)

 

I am tired of having to have another Hamilton related article that has clearly nothing to do with the show, plaguing my theatre websites...

I understand that the Hamilton Machine has a very strong PR team- including creating this fictitious AUDITION FOR HAMILTON on video thing which was so ridiculous considering that they are auditioning equity actors the legit way and just created free buzz for themselves...  because who is going to sit through thousands of videos when there's official equity auditions happening....

 

And let's not even discuss the carefully planned digital Hamilton lottery that everyone freely buzzed about on social media creating it to crash, to then go back to normal again...

 

There's no such thing as bad publicity,.  but when is it TOO MUCH publicity.

I haven't seen the show.  But now it's like I don't care to see it.

 

Listened to the soundtrack a few times- and cannot get into it at all.

It feels like it's 4 songs- (or Beats).. set to different tempos repeating over and over again. Retreading 'in the heights' leftovers that follow the same style .  'My shot' is clearly the title track of 'in the heights' again..

anyone else feeling this, yo?

 

anyone else thinking this way?  or am I just by myself in this world. because it's pretty easy to write a rap to mundane music. 

 

Because the assassination of a president, is resident, in my competent establishment, of understanding the ifs and whens of then and whens- when, it can pretend to be a liar, an honest-rapid fire, of discussion, no concussion, take it to the other notion of promotion. You got yourself a team of fabricators that allow the haters to possess a fascinator wearing shade, throwing blame but I won't play this game of being bombarded by the Hamilton, i'm not gonna throw my Benjamins on this shot, Ramblin', when so many otha shows deserve the same head clot, to rot, inside a vicious drop, the beat and if you ya think i'm gonna get a seat, you're bugging- ya feeling me?    (just off the top of my head)   

Updated On: 1/18/16 at 09:24 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/18/16 at 9:28pm

I have totally been in that position.  Then, after a lot of time passes, I end up seeing whatever it was I was "over" and then regret taking an oppositional stance against something that ended up being good.

 

Stop reading about Hamilton and see it someday.

[Patti LuPone FANatic]

Posted: 1/18/16 at 9:29pm

Taboo...where have you been?   Long time.  Anyway.  Let me be Switzerland for a bit.  I (sort of) get it that people are just agog over the show.  It's obviously the hottest ticket in town.   There is so much attention and goodwill directed towards the show.  But, it is not  for me.  Hip-hop/rap is just not my thing.  But more power to you if it is.  

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 1/18/16 at 9:30pm

"without even seeing it"

 

[Up In One]

Posted: 1/18/16 at 9:33pm

There's a story breaking on Variety.com that Hamilton just broke the record for the most simultaneous threads on Broadwayworld.com

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[haterobics]

Posted: 1/18/16 at 9:35pm

It sounds like your beef is with websites using SEO to earn income, unless you really think the Hamilton PR team has to work this hard for some unknown reason, as ticket sales isn't a motivator.

Posted: 1/18/16 at 9:35pm

You're not getting the point Broadway Concierge.

The discussion is about- when is 'too much publicity' too much??

There seems to be trivial articles written about it every day.

This has nothing to do with the show itself- I know very well no one should make an opinion about the show without seeing it.    But is there just too much being written about it to the point of - ridiculous?

These articles are ridiculous. We are one step closer to seeing an article that will read ' Hamilton visits a bathroom toilet'.  it's just too much sometimes.   Is their PR marketing team too much for all of us?  Are they being whipped into submission?  and why are these establishments falling for it and not giving other shows some of the light?

[MichelleCraig]

Posted: 1/18/16 at 9:41pm

Had the Internet been around way back when, OP might've been saying the same things about A CHORUS LINE.

Posted: 1/18/16 at 9:43pm

Must be the promotional team from 'The Public' then....

[Up In One]

Posted: 1/18/16 at 9:46pm

I get what your saying but it really is a personal taste thing. I like the show so I like the attention it's getting. Similarly there were musicals running last season that I felt should never have come to Broadway and I begrudged them any attention or coverage they got, not wanting to legitimize them.   A Hamilton - for whatever reason- does not come around often - in my book not since the original A Chorus Line - so the attention paid should be just as epic.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 1/18/16 at 9:48pm

I am with you taboo

 

The hype is over the top.Next on the agenda " Hamilton Seen With Elvis At a 7/11." My wife wanted to hear the score so I got her the CD. She actually tried to get tickets with me a few weeks ago while we were in the city. When she saw the prices available and only for September she got over Hamilton real quick. She is now firmly in my camp saying no show is worth all of it.

 

With all that is going on in the real world, Hamilton really is not that important to us. We see a few shows here and there and that is enough for us.If people want to let it rule their lives,this is their business.It simply is not important to us.

Updated On: 1/18/16 at 09:48 PM

Posted: 1/18/16 at 9:50pm

Understandable.   I just felt so alone on this issue.  Thanks for reaffirming that I'm not going crazy.

 

I would NEVER pay full price for a broadway show.  So I guess it'll be a very long time before I get to experience it,  i'd rather give my hard earned money to shows that need the help.

[UrNotAMachine]

Posted: 1/18/16 at 9:56pm

I agree with you that the publicity has gotten out of hand. I don't blame the show for that, however. I blame the click-bait media latching on to the show and shoving it down our throats. If the show didn't strike such a chord with people and if the show wasn't as brilliant as it is, then it wouldn't have nearly as much PR buzz. And can you blame the Hamilton PR team for tapping into the insane well-spring of attention that it has? I don't expect them to decide to quit making money any time soon. As for why establishments aren't giving other shows the same light, it's because no other show comes close to being what Hamilton is. You have to acknowledge that there's a reason Hamilton is so hyped beyond the fact that its PR team is good.  I truly believe that it's a once in a generation show. The buzz for it can be annoying but I'm glad that something like Hamilton is getting the recognition it deserves rather than something less deserving.

[GavestonPS]

Posted: 1/18/16 at 9:57pm

Take a trip to the hinterlands. Outside of Manhattan and those who travel there, nobody's even heard of HAMILTON. (Myself, I simply skip the threads talking about HAMILTON finances and tickets, though I do read those that discuss the actual show.)

 

But I do understand how you feel. I get that feeling with certain films: that I've already seen them because I've seen so much hype.

[uncageg]

Posted: 1/18/16 at 10:07pm

I am getting close to over it. I do want to see it even though, as I have mentioned, I don't care to see Lin in it. The press is bordering on overkill. However, I have not seen any commercial for it on tv. Probably because they don't need one.  I am sure I will just break down and listen to it before I see it.

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 1/18/16 at 10:17pm

Hell, I've SEEN Hamilton twice and I'm tired of it getting 10 daily headlines on each theatre news site and a tweet every time Lin blows his nose. And no, this isn't even an issue of "if you don't like it, don't read it." I can avoid clicking, but I can't avoid a headline.

I'm fully aware that putting Hamilton in a headline is great for SEO. But it's driving me mad.

[Dave13]

Posted: 1/18/16 at 10:31pm

I understand what you are saying, as I get that way with other shows or movies. However, before you criticize the publicity, I think you really need to see it before you pass judgment. If you dislike the show, then I believe you are justified. 

 

I have seen Hamilton three times. I may not have been a Broadway show fan as long as others on this board, but I believe Hamilton is the most complete show that I have seen. For me, the show is informative and eye opening. I have actually learned more about our founding fathers from a "Broadway Musical" than I ever did in almost 20 years of education. Hamilton has made me appreciate the founding fathers and forced me to do further research. I cannot think of another show that had the same impact on me. 

 

The show is the most entertaining show I have seen. When I listen to the cast recording, I can listen to EVERY song, over and over again. It also seems I learn or pick up something new every time I listen to the cast recording. I cannot say that about any other show or cast recording. Most cast recordings, I have to skip over songs to get to the ones I want to listen to. 

 

I also feel that Hamilton is breaking so many barriers, that it will change Broadway for many years to come. I believe every age and ethnic group, can and will enjoy the show. I can only imagine what this musical will do once it reaches regional and high school theater. I can see this being a big hit in high school theater for many years, Without a doubt, the younger generation will appreciate it, and will bring more attention and fans to Broadway. 

 

Bottom line. Most other shows are simply pure entertainment. Hamilton is entertaining and educational. I doubt another show has or will every be able to come close to it. 

 

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/18/16 at 10:34pm

Why did you write it as "Broadway Musical"?

[ljay889]

Posted: 1/18/16 at 10:37pm

Dave13 said: "Bottom line. Most other shows are simply pure entertainment. Hamilton is entertaining and educational. I doubt another show has or will every be able to come close to it. "

 

A statement like this is what irritates people. So no other show in the rich history of American musical theater has come close to Hamilton? Really?  Showboat, Oklahoma, Gypsy, Fiddler, Cabaret, 1776, A Chorus Line, Company, Sweeney Todd just to name a few....you're saying those shows cannot touch Hamilton?? I understand Hamilton is a groundbreaking show, but I refuse to believe that it's the greatest show in the history of musical theater, a show that not even the classics can touch. I don't buy it. 

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Posted: 1/18/16 at 10:52pm

Dave13

And your answer is what justifies my question.

Broadway Musicals IS history.

There is something to be learned from every musical because they are centered around eras and time periods and there's MUCH to be learned from MOST if not all musicals.

What racism in the 1950's meant on the streets of West Side Story to World War II with South Pacific. 

to the streets of London and Sweeney Todd, to unrest in Russia with Fiddler on the Roof, and nazi's overtaking the regions of Germany in Cabaret, of course  1776,    and the list goes on and on and on.

 

musical theatre is history and mainly- american history.  

 

The topic of the conversation has to do about Publicity and too much of it surrounding Hamilton and being OVER IT without even seeing it.    Not about whether the show is good or not.  I am glad Hamilton inspired you to learn something..   but you have a hell of a lot of things to learn from all the other shows as well.

 

So basically-   what i gathered from your answer is that this show has been done before.

A show about a president and the trials and tribulations of being an underdog and the voice of the people , losing family, going against the odds, winning a presidency..   doing everything possible to reach the American Dream.  Government working behind his back to overthrow him.   

 

 Basically it's 'Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson'   set to rap music.   

Updated On: 1/18/16 at 10:52 PM

[HogansHero]

Posted: 1/18/16 at 10:53pm

There are at least 3 things at play here and one thing not at lay.

First, there is social media, a phenomenon that's not going away.

Second, there is mainstream media that wakes u every morning in abject fear that it is being put out of business by social media.

Third, there is the first musical in well over a generation to warrant serious attention and interest. 

And then there is the show's media people who are trying their best to put a damper on the attention in those areas where they can. Perhaps you haven't noticed that the show-which could easily perform on every morning and late night show in existence-has been on a sum total of none. 

Do you think the show engineered the forged ticket splash? People here are so unused to having something legitimacy exciting that they react in the insane way of the OP here. It is very easy to let the headlines pass unread if you have heard enough. 

[Auggie27]

Posted: 1/18/16 at 10:55pm

So, so, so this is what it feels like to match wits with someone at your level, what the hell is the catch?

[ljay889]

Posted: 1/18/16 at 10:55pm

HogansHero said: "Third, there is the first musical in well over a generation to warrant serious attention and interest. "

 

Were you sleeping the season when The Book of Mormon premiered? 

[dramamama611]

Posted: 1/18/16 at 11:00pm

Yes, it's a bit much. I haven't opened too many articles/links in months.  I find myself rolling my eyes. A lot.

 

However, I have seen it, and I can't wait until I see it again.(30 days)  So, the overblown coverage hasn't effected that.

Posted: 1/18/16 at 11:01pm

HogansHero said: "Third, there is the first musical in well over a generation to warrant serious attention and interest. "

 

and Spring Awakening (the first time around)  and Memphis, and Hairspray, and Scotsboro Boys, and American Idiot, and Fela!, and Next to Normal, Grey Gardens, Drowsy Chaperone, Caroline or Change, Urinetown,..Producers, Wild Party,    (i'll just keep it the 21st Century)....