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Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter

Jay Lerner-Z Profile Photo

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#1

Posted: 6/4/26 at 3:58pm

I notice BroadwayWorld is prominently displaying the Pride flag.

Is platforming Harry Potter compatible with that?

Example from today.

https://www.broadwayworld.com/portland/article/Tickets-to-HARRY-POTTER-AND-THE-CURSED-CHILD-in-Portland-on-Sale-Next-Week-20260604

Will this thread be accepted as valid customer feedback, or be deleted?

 


Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#2

Posted: 6/4/26 at 6:04pm

Much as I loathe Rowling, it's a Broadway show. I think it's a bit much to ask a Broadway news outlet to just ignore said Broadway show.


"I know now that theatre saved my life." - Susan Stroman

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Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#3

Posted: 6/4/26 at 6:15pm

Harry Potter, as a brand, isn't going anywhere. It’s deeply embedded in our culture. The HBO series is going to last at least seven seasons. Millions of people will be watching and discussing it.

JK Rowling is terrible and deeply unwell, but being upset about anything Harry Potter related will only cause suffering for yourself. Most people don’t care or know about her comments, despite the fact that she tweets about trans people all day, every day. It’s a total obsession.

The only thing you can do is not give it your time, money, or energy if it bothers you that much. Try to pay it no mind.

Updated On: 6/4/26 at 06:15 PM

Charley Kringas Inc Profile Photo

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#4

Posted: 6/4/26 at 6:18pm

JK Rowling can suck the turds out of my asshole.

Jay Lerner-Z Profile Photo

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#5

Posted: 6/4/26 at 6:19pm

This site can report on it, sure, but actively promoting it? Hm. Take down the Pride flag. What does being an ally even mean anymore?


Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$

joevitus Profile Photo

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#6

Posted: 6/4/26 at 6:40pm

Jay Lerner-Z said: "I notice BroadwayWorld is prominently displaying the Pride flag.

Is platforming Harry Potter compatible with that?

Example from today.

https://www.broadwayworld.com/portland/article/Tickets-to-HARRY-POTTER-AND-THE-CURSED-CHILD-in-Portland-on-Sale-Next-Week-20260604

Will this thread be accepted as valid customer feedback, or be deleted?


"

As I'm sure members of the LGBT community are involved in the production, yes.

Jay Lerner-Z Profile Photo

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#7

Posted: 6/4/26 at 7:18pm

LGBT+ people are everywhere, in every facet of life, good and bad.


Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#8

Posted: 6/4/26 at 7:21pm

TotallyEffed said: "Harry Potter, as a brand, isn't going anywhere. It’s deeply embedded in our culture. The HBO series is going to last at least seven seasons. Millions of being will be watching and discussing it.

JK Rowling is terrible and deeply unwell, but being upset about anything Harry Potterrelated will only cause suffering for yourself. Most people don’t care or know about her comments, despite the fact that she tweets about trans people all day, every day. It’s a total obsession.

The only thing you can do is not give it your time, money, or energy if it bothers you that much. Try to pay it no mind.
"

I don’t see it lasting 7 seasons. Not because of Rowling but because you simply can’t strike lightening in a bottle twice and the audience will dwindle in favor of the films.

Sutton Ross Profile Photo

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#9

Posted: 6/4/26 at 8:24pm

^ That's simply not true. There is huge interest and it's already been renewed for season 2. Every season only has 8 episodes though, so it's not a huge commitment. I guess they want to start an entire new generation of fans. Ive never read or watched any of those Child Wizard books, but I imagine they have to be quite good since this story has been relevant for 30 years.

Don't support her, JayZ. Simple. Don't judge the people who do as they are free to spend their money on anything they wish, and your energy is being wasted hating them. You cannot control other people and how they think. Millions of people don't care what you care about, and remembering that will make you far less miserable regarding this topic that you continue to bring up over and over and over again. Also, this is an entertainment website so I'm pretty sure they can celebrate the Rainbow Community and report the news. 

 

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#10

Posted: 6/4/26 at 10:51pm

The show itself has a rainbow showbill this month despite the lack of inclusion from the creator. 

joevitus Profile Photo

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#11

Posted: 6/5/26 at 2:42am

Jay Lerner-Z said: "LGBT+ people are everywhere, in every facet of life, good and bad."

Indeed. But you're missing my point. I also think lashing out against Harry Potter (as opposed to Rowling herself) is tiresome. 

Updated On: 6/5/26 at 02:42 AM

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#12

Posted: 6/5/26 at 7:02am

It seems fairly likely that somewhere among the producers, creative team, or cast of almost every show, are one or more people whose viewpoints some might find offensive or reprehensible.  People will vary in how they respond as we see here time and time again.

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#13

Posted: 6/5/26 at 7:07am

It’s interesting that Giant asks the very question as to whether you can separate the author from their work. 

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#14

Posted: 6/5/26 at 8:28am

Here you go again Jay, sometimes in the words of the song by Kenny Rogers you have to know when to "fold them". Nothing you or anybody else say or do is going to affect JK Rowling. She is super rich and the Harry Potter brand keeps rolling along. Like others have said, this is entertainment website and to expect them not to report on a show is absurd. They are not in business to judge the beliefs of the creator of shows. You have made your point numerous times on this board, and everyone agrees with you about JK Rowling as a person. If you think anything is going to change, I disagree.

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Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#15

Posted: 6/5/26 at 9:07am

Dreamboy3 said: "It’s interesting that Giant asks the very question as to whether you can separate the author from their work."

Good point. IMO, I feel I have a responsibility to (at least) practice separating/compartmentalizing good elements from bad. If I don't, then any good evaporates in the shadow of the bad, and the bad takes precedence re: importance (Throwing out the baby with the bathwater).

Bill Cosby was the person whose situation I struggled with for a very long time. Ultimately, I came to a conclusion that the good he accomplished was far greater in number than the bad. I didn't need to succumb to cancel culture by blinding myself to the positive accomplishments he made in the world.

There is nothing unacceptable about recognizing the bad as being bad, whilst lauding the good - regardless of whether/not they emanate from the same source.

Both scenarios exist simultaneously in life, and have always existed in tandem.

Updated On: 6/5/26 at 09:07 AM

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Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#16

Posted: 6/5/26 at 9:19am

I would never tell anyone to stop fighting the fight. Keep on keeping on, Jay. 

I know a bunch of queer and trans artists that have been involved in Cursed Child and, knowing how awful this business is, I'd never judge them for doing what is necessary to make it in this world.

But Joanne makes it really f*cking hard to separate the art from the artists when she is so brazenly using her massive wealth that as come from this franchise to fund efforts to make trans people's lives more difficult. She is a shameful person and I truly hope nothing good every happens to her again. 

Jay Lerner-Z Profile Photo

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#17

Posted: 6/5/26 at 12:44pm

SteveSanders said: "It seems fairly likely that somewhere among the producers, creative team, or cast of almost every show, are one or more people whose viewpoints some might find offensive or reprehensible. People will vary in how they respond as we see here time and time again."

 

The continued success of this franchise (from which she continues to profit) tells trans people they don't matter. She gloats about her bank balance and takes it as validation of her views.


Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$

Jay Lerner-Z Profile Photo

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#18

Posted: 6/5/26 at 12:48pm

joevitus said: "Jay Lerner-Z said: "LGBT+ people are everywhere, in every facet of life, good and bad."

Indeed. But you're missing my point. I also think lashing out against Harry Potter (as opposed to Rowling herself) is tiresome.
"


As do I. He's a lovely guy, who I'm sure would hate JK Rowling. I don't judge anybody for enjoying it. Just try to not financially support it if you give a sh!t about trans people is all I’m saying… and if you support it, ask yourself do you deserve to fly the Pride flag.


Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$
Updated On: 6/5/26 at 12:48 PM

Sutton Ross Profile Photo

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#19

Posted: 6/5/26 at 12:54pm

The continued success of this franchise (from which she continues to profit) tells trans people they don't matter. She gloats about her bank balance and takes it as validation of her views.

Then stop reading news about her. Don't support her. Support your trans friend. And STOP telling people what to do with their own money, it's beyond embarrassing for you to think you can control what other people do, what they enjoy watching/reading/experiencing. And you can trust me that most trans folks pay her absolutely no mind because she doesn't matter.

Jay Lerner-Z Profile Photo

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#20

Posted: 6/5/26 at 12:58pm

She fcking DOES matter. That's the frightening part. She is the Lord Voldemort of transphobic activist groups and has influenced UK law.

Sutton, you have no clue.


Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$

Sutton Ross Profile Photo

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#21

Posted: 6/5/26 at 1:03pm

She doesn't matter to them is what I'm saying. I do have a clue enough to know that telling people what to do with their own money and bitching about Rowling has no impact on anything. You keep making these threads for no reason, so perhaps it's best you go out and protest the play (pick a country) or go right up to HBO headquarters and yell at them.

Do something besides sitting on your phone and complaining, then maybe people will respect you on this issue. Have a pleasant afternoon! heart

Jay Lerner-Z Profile Photo

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#22

Posted: 6/5/26 at 1:07pm

Sutton, you have no idea what I do or don't do offline. You have zero credibility left on any issue around here. Enjoy your weekend.


Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$

Sutton Ross Profile Photo

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#23

Posted: 6/5/26 at 1:13pm

Lolz. You never had any to begin with with your embarrassing threads. You do nothing but complain and try to control people.  Looking forward to another useless thread complaining about people flying in planes and Beyonce soon. Enjoy being a keyboard warrior and nothing else in life. Shoo Shoo!

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter

 

 

Updated On: 6/6/26 at 01:13 PM

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#24

Posted: 6/5/26 at 3:27pm


i dunno, i’ve been reading this site since 2010 and never felt like posting, but i’ve seen a fair few of jay’s posts on this subject over the years and finally feel compelled to speak.

so, context: i’m a stagehand and i opened harry potter on broadway (back when the code name was “train times”) and ran the show until the pandemic hit.  also i’m trans.  

and even in 2018 there was a certain cognitive dissonance that went along with this employment, but nobody working at the lyric and supporting the show was onboard with jk’s terfiness and honestly it felt sort of satisfying to know that it would irritate her to know she was supporting my life ^_*
/end of context

so here’s what i think about this.  it’s one thing to separate the art from the artist when it comes to what we like; i like tool’s early albums and still listen to them, they were important to me when i was a kid and there are a lot of good memories associated.

but it’s another thing to give money to people who use that money for objectively evil purposes, and it’s simply the truth that rowling is using her money to assist in the oppression and destruction of trans people.  and we have a moral responsibility to avoid supporting her in this detestable mission.  

so jay, you’re obviously right to point out the contradiction of bww flying the flag and continuing to platform jk, they are trying to have it both ways.  and to some of the rest of you, your lack of empathy for your trans siblings is noted.  and don’t make the mistake of thinking you won’t be targetted once they’re done with us.

 

 

also ps - how tf do i change my username?

Jay Lerner-Z Profile Photo

Pride, BWW, and Harry Potter#25

Posted: 6/5/26 at 5:00pm

Thanks for the insight, Ensemble!


Beyoncé is not an ally. Actions speak louder than words, Mrs. Carter. #Dubai #$$$


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