Bootlegs during Quarantine — Page 4

morosco said: "Has anyone ever been convicted of recording a broadway show?"

No. And no show has ever closed because of a bootleg. No show has ever lost money because of a bootleg. No actor has gone hungry because of a bootleg. No stagehands have been unemployed because of a bootleg. The reality is, people collecting bootlegs are,  in general, fans of those shows. They pay for tickets and see the shows. So there isn't any real financial impact.  And let's not forget, most bootlegs are unwatchable, so in no way would they ever be able to replace the experience of seeing the show live. 

And you can't really compare it to movies or music, which arguably does have an impact (albeit a very small one; the money lost is negligible). 

Yes, bootlegs are illegal. But this isn't grand larceny. The arguments about uncompensated actors or violations of privacy are facetious at best, and display a superiority complex since they themselves aren't in any real position to make those arguments. And it is widely believed that the average "law-abiding citizen" breaks an average of 7 laws a week (some even argue per day). So let's get a grip.

Updated On: 4/23/20 at 11:53 AM

Call_me_jorge said: "Thank you hearthemsing22"

Sorry it's hard to tell online...sarcasm? 

hearthemsing22 said: "No one has to "get a grip". People can have their own stance on things, especially bootlegs.

I never said they couldn't. But there idea that bootlegs have some far-reaching adverse consequences is nonsense. 

"People have come to the conclusion that an actor is awful and are saying this actor shouldn't have been cast in the production they're in...and these people haven't even seen the person in real life. They're basing this critique on bootlegs or audio recordings of the person that they've heard. Most of these people have not seen the show in person, so this harms that show (yes I am aware that other people will see it thanks) and the ACTOR, which is the most important.

People form those opinions from official recordings as well, so this argument has no merit.

No, they shouldn't get used to rude comments. Actors are human, and words hurt no matter who you are, and its not easy to let things roll off you.

They chose to enter into a profession in which criticism is expected and unavoidable, regardless of their ability to ignore negative comments. If they can't handle it, they are in the wrong business. 

It's incredibly selfish to say, it's not hurting anyone I can record whatever I want, I deserve this recording.

I never said that. However, people arguing against bootlegs have taken their existence as some sort of personal attack,  when it has no bearing on their lives. As I've said,  no actors/stagehands/musicians have ever lost a job because of bootlegs. Producers haven't lost money because of bootlegs. Shows haven't closed because of bootlegs. Yes, they are illegal. But their impact on the industry has not had any negative impact on the industry. Theater bootleg "customers" are, statistically-speaking, non-existent. So arguments to the contrary are specious at best.

darquegk said: "The prevalence of bootlegs, and their increased acceptance during the 2020 quarantine, will undoubtedly be seen as incentive to record more shows and to preemptively negotiate contracts that would allow this in the future. "

The existing Broadway contracts already allow for the recording of shows, but producers don’t want to spend money that they know they won’t recoup. 

Updated On: 4/19/20 at 09:50 AM

When I went to youtube to see Andre Bocelli's performance the only bootlegs I did not see any bootlegs shot from the orchestra.  If people like one level up performances with not so great lighting they can find Wicked and Beetlejuice. 

darreyl102 said: "220Basswood said: "When I went to youtube to see Andre Bocelli's performance the only bootlegs I did not see any bootlegs shot from the orchestra. If people like one level up performances with not so great lighting they can find Wicked and Beetlejuice."

What do you mean in the last part of your statement?"

 

What I was trying to say was that Beetlejuice and Wicked are on youtube but they were filmed from the mezzanine, the people filming did not zoom in and the lighting looks terrible.

Karen Olivo was on instagram today asking if anyone had bootlegs of Moulin Rouge and said she wouldn't rat them out.Guess she's looking for something to watch during quarantine.

I agree with VotePeron that just 1 post like this negates any argument on the other side, especially when it comes from someone in one of the highest grossing shows on Broadway. I think it's fairly obvious that most actors only care about filming when they're distracted by the camera while they're on stage, and people who know what they're doing are far more discreet than that.

Updated On: 4/24/20 at 05:35 PM

poisonivy2 said: "Ironically the only bootleg I've seen has her understudy."

She also addressed that...

completely against it. I apologize first for this following language I will use. But this s what my heart is.

The bootleg will make broadway go downhill eventually. why?

when there r bootleg --> some people wont spend money to go to the theater --> some show will not make enough profit or survive, lot of income will reduces --> all the income of actors are effect --> people turn 'AWAY' from BW because they cant make a living and more talents in BW will go for television.

At the end, you will lose some really good talents because they wont be able to survive it.

And here s BW board, it s a place for people who love BW to come and discuss things. So even if 'WE' still cant support the people we love ---- WHO WILL?

Cut the crap about not living in US. I live in Asia and have no direct flight to US. Last year I save up and travel to US twice, one for watching Waitress cus 2 people I love Shoshana and Jeremy Jordan are in it. Another time on New Year because there r concert of Kristien Chenoweth in LA and few days later Jeremy Jordan concert in NJ (yes, I also fly accross the coast for this 2 events)

So I repeat, stop this things about not living in US. it s a matter of you love it enough or not. If you want to really do something strong enough, you will find the way. It s matter of saving and priority. If I can do it, so as other people. Im just middle class (even slightly lower than that even compare to Asia standard. And our living is a lot of cheaper than US and Europe so think about my income value).

 

If u r filming those Bootlegs, just remember you are killing them slowly . All the downhill from here is from you hands. SHAME ON YOU. We have seen how many people now that go for TV and not doing BW because they  wont earn enough. Stoo turing the blind eye on this. 

Updated On: 5/3/20 at 02:25 AM