Bootlegs during Quarantine
Posted: 4/3/20 at 11:34am
I don't see a problem with a brief bootleg moratorium during the Quarantine.
Posted: 4/3/20 at 12:03pm
Even BWW's own Alan Henry said this!
https://twitter.com/AlanHenry/status/1243921766352859139
Posted: 4/3/20 at 12:21pm
Posted: 4/3/20 at 1:07pm
There was a new and excellent bootleg of the original London cast of Six up on youtube a few weeks back.
Updated On: 4/3/20 at 01:07 PM
Posted: 4/3/20 at 2:41pm
Posted: 4/3/20 at 3:57pm
Jordan Catalano said: "I’m sure full pearl-clutching over this will be back in effect when theaters reopen. "
Hahahaha, yup. Funny how the people who had the most to say about bootlegging are quiet now.
Posted: 4/3/20 at 10:48pm
Posted: 4/4/20 at 12:00am
FlyHigh523 said: "Jordan Catalano said: "I’m sure full pearl-clutching over this will be back in effect when theaters reopen. "
Hahahaha, yup. Funny how the people who had the most to say about bootlegging are quiet now."
No, they are still bad. My takeaway from this thread is this. People are using the Broadway shutdown as a justification to do something they shouldn't be doing regardless, just to make themselves feel better about doing it in the first place.
Look, I am beyond pissed that Broadway is shutdown, I've got bills to pay and having trouble collecting unemployment. I know as well, that the posters here, just like me enjoy seeing shows too. But, many of the posters here are also ones who complain when someone takes out their phone during a show either to record or check texts etc. You really can't hav it both ways.
And, I think it's great that younger people all over the country have fallen in love with Broadway. But, just because you can't get there to see shows doesn't justify it either. It's a show after all, you're not going to die from not seeing a Broadway show.
Posted: 4/4/20 at 1:44am
The quality bootlegs are not the ones shot by amateurs on a phone.
Posted: 4/4/20 at 8:48am
I'm not. I dont enjoy them so I dont think its we'd worth my time to search got them. I certainnly will never pay for them.
I'm also tired of beating this dead horse of a discussion.
Posted: 4/4/20 at 11:15am
There should be some sort of black list for people caught recording shows. They should be evicted from a theatre, and then at the very least be barred from attending any other bway show.
Posted: 4/4/20 at 12:01pm
inception said: "After reading this thread, I did a search on google for "Hadestown bootleg" which immediately brought up a youtube video of the whole show filmed in London. While I'm sure producers could just as easily do their own google searches, id there any simplecway to report these illegal recordings?
There should be some sort of black list for people caught recording shows. They should be evicted from a theatre, and then at the very least be barred from attending any other bway show.
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That won't happen for several reasons. One, if I see someone with their phone out during the show, regardless of the reason, I have to tell them to put it away in an a way that causes either zero interruption to the folks around the culprit or as minimal as possible. Second, it is bad for business. That said, they wold never do what you suggested. The notion of delivering high end customer service is a notion across the board no matter which company owns the theatre. Therefor, banning a potential customer is not only a silly notion but one that would cost both the owners of the theatre and producers money. It doesn't matter if it is one person or say forty people. And, no one would be willing to keep list of who can and can't come in either.
Posted: 4/4/20 at 12:39pm
Islander_fan said: "inception said: "After reading this thread, I did a search on google for "Hadestown bootleg" which immediately brought up a youtube video of the whole show filmed in London. While I'm sure producers could just as easily do their own google searches, id there any simplecway to report these illegal recordings?
There should be some sort of black list for people caught recording shows. They should be evicted from a theatre, and then at the very least be barred from attending any other bway show.
"
That won't happen for several reasons. One, if I see someone with their phone out during the show, regardless of the reason, I have to tell them to put it away in an a way that causes either zero interruption to the folks around the culprit or as minimal as possible. Second, it is bad for business. That said, they woldneverdo what you suggested. The notion of delivering high end customer service is a notion across the board no matter which company owns the theatre. Therefor, banning a potential customer is not only a silly notion but one that would cost both the owners of the theatre and producers money. It doesn't matter if it is one person or say forty people. And, no one would be willing to keep list of who can and can't come in either."
You'd be surprised.
Posted: 4/4/20 at 1:23pm
So in 2016 I ran across a bootleg of Waitress. I was intrigued and bought a ticket. I ended up making 6 trips to the diner before the show finally closed.
Same with Dear Evan Hansen. So many shows where a bootleg snippet got me to buy a ticket. Can't tell you how much money I've probably forked over because I saw a bootleg of that show.
Posted: 4/4/20 at 1:26pm
Bootlegs are a necessary evil, lets not re-litigate this ****.
Posted: 4/4/20 at 1:27pm
I highly doubt that. As front of house we get the most banal asinine issues brought to our attention all the time. We can smell audience BS from a mile away. As an example, ticket takers move at rapid pace to get everyone in. One of them accidentally didn't catch a woman who brought in a cup from Starbucks into the theatre. I told her polity that she had to throw it away. Her response was that the usher at the door said it was ok. I can assure you, the usher at the door didn't say it was ok. They just didn't see it. Big difference. Or people who have vertigo buying tickets in the balcony thinking it wasn't going to be as high as they initially thought, only to get there and realize they were wrong. We try to give them a lower down seat if possible. But, if there is a chance that that may be the case, why would you buy a balcony ticket if that is a potential issue that could come up. It's like in order to enter the theatre you have to have an IQ less than your shoe size.
But, I am curious what makes you say I'd be surprised. I don't mea that in a snarky way. Genuine curiosity was/is the tone I'm gong for.
Posted: 4/4/20 at 4:42pm
Yeah bootlegs are illegal and probably against the best wishes of most creative teams, but I seriously have to agree that social media just makes a show stronger. I mean, of course it’s better to watch something live than pretend you’re there through somebody’s phone. Anyone watching a bootleg would LOVE to be able to get in that room. Sometimes you just really want to connect over something, and in the streaming age you’ll see a lot of people, teens especially, gravitate towards a medium where they aren’t trapped by financial/geographical situations. And I think especially while the physical world is shut down, maybe that’s okay?
Posted: 4/4/20 at 5:34pm
Plenty of actors have been sharing clips of themselves or their friends for years on social media now, especially in the past three weeks. The area will always be gray, no matter how many people here want it to be black and white.
Posted: 4/4/20 at 6:14pm
TheatreFan4 said: "Bootlegs are a necessary evil, lets not re-litigate this ****."
How - in ANY WAY - are the NECESSARY????
Posted: 4/4/20 at 6:21pm
Especially now.
A lot of fantastic stuff has been pro shot and been made available to stream- and from places other than Broadway. Just because you can’t see what’s on Broadway this season doesn’t mean you’re deprived of decades and decades of theatre.
Posted: 4/4/20 at 9:50pm
If the show is closed, I say bootlegs are not a big deal. If the show is still running, that is a problem because the show might lose business if people can watch it for free on YouTube (or whatever their "supplier" is).
Posted: 4/4/20 at 9:54pm
inception said: "After reading this thread, I did a search on google for "Hadestown bootleg" which immediately brought up a youtube video of the whole show filmed in London. While I'm sure producers could just as easily do their own google searches, id there any simplecway to report these illegal recordings?
There should be some sort of black list for people caught recording shows. They should be evicted from a theatre, and then at the very least be barred from attending any other bway show.
"Any simple way to report these recordings?"
I have to share my experience being in a bootleg PRODUCTION:
Many years ago I was in a local production of INHERIT THE WIND at a now defunct theater. We knew something was fishy when we were given photocopied scripts at the first read-thru. The production turned out to be fairly good and we settled in for a one-month run.
The producers were so happy with the show--especially with the young actor playing Bertram Cates, that they invited the NEW YORK TIMES to review it for their Long Island section. The review was very good--not glowing, but good--and when we got to the theater for a performance a few days later, there were police in front of the theater who would not let us in. It seems that the people at Samuel French read the Times' review, found that this was an illegal production and had it shut down. That evening's performance was canceled but obviously everything was worked out by the following night because the show went on with the producers insisting that it was all a misunderstanding and the royalties had been paid upfront--probably at the same time that they paid to have the scripts photocopied.
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Posted: 4/4/20 at 10:16pm
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