Broadway Grosses delayed? — Page 3

Can we PLEASE discuss the grosses and not national politics? Or what you think of other posters' mental health?

It's hard enough to read the news without (it seems) every thread quickly become some combination of personal attack and/or national politics scree (on both sides).



How about we agree that threads that wish to make political points, or contain personal attacks be labeled -- sort of like -- "BROADWAY GROSSES -- personal attacks thread". or "BROADWAY GROSSES -- political opinions thread'. That way those who want to read those and post commennts of that nature can find them easily, and the few(?) of us who would like to discuss theater and critic reviews and Broadway news wont need to scroll through dozens of other (more and more predictable) tangential comments.



Please consider it. Thank you

I've said this in other threads, but the cost of theater rentals needs to be thoroughly discussed at *least* when we're asking theater professionals to forgo cost of living increases and health insurance.

The one time that a landlord shared it's financials a few years ago, it showed that they made a profit of $34mil on a $116mil revenue.

"Broadway investors stand to lose about $200 million on the 2023-24 season’s flops. For Jujamcyn Theaters, the Broadway landlord, it was a different story.

Jujamcyn earned a profit of $34 million on revenue of $116 million in the year ending March 30, 2024. The disclosure, in a filing in the U.K. by Jujamcyn’s new parent, ATG Entertainment, is the first time in memory that a major commercial Broadway theater owner shared its financials."

https://broadwayjournal.com/jujamcyn-profit-revealed-in-rare-disclosure/

Can this please be a part of any discussion going forward? Why isn't it fair to ask ATG, Shubert, and the ilk to maybe make a bit less profit (like, could they survive with $20mil), but it's ok to ask the professionals who make the show to not have their families health insurance covered?

Or am I missing something here?

MemorableUserName said: "Jarethan said: "First, Binau seems to me to be one of the more consistently pleasant posters on this board. Because Binau is suggesting that some pragmatism is required, does not make Binau a right-wing conservative...just a pragmatist.


Binau has spent the past yearscreeching about cancel culture, evil libruls, helpless martyr Ch**lie K*rk, the intolerant left, and other right-wing causes. They are very much a right-wing conservative, and if you find them consistently pleasant you must not be familiar with their work(though much of it was in threads that were either deleted or bumped to the Off-topic board)."

I’ve been here for almost 20 years there is no need to pretend it’s just the ‘last year’, I have had concerns with the ideological behaviour of people in the Broadway community and this forum for at least 6 years. I’m not signing up to this cultish cancel culture behaviour around Patti or Great comet or Nicole, I’m not going to support political violence, and if there is no money I’m also not going to naively pretend the costs can just keep going up without a way to offset it. I don’t think this makes me a ‘right wing conservative’, I think it just makes me reasonable and not wanting to accept terrible ideas. However, I fully accept as this is what people do these days if you can’t take any criticism, if it’s be this far left stubborn mindset or be considered ‘right wing’ I’ll be whatever you call me I don’t care. You have to accept this. Not everyone is going to think the same way as you. Not everyone needs to think the same way as you.

I just ask that if people are too lazy, too emotional or unwilling to actually engage in a discussion about ideas you disagree with then just ignore me instead of going down this unpleasant, hysterical campaign of trying to smeer, insult and shutdown which I think you do because you don’t have the capability to do anything else.

Updated On: 9/27/25 at 03:23 AM

^ 100%

I can't speak for others, but I could do without ever again reading the "you know this is why Trump got elected" comment and others in the same vein.

Updated On: 9/27/25 at 08:14 AM

Mike66 said: "Can we PLEASE discuss the grosses and not national politics? Or what you think of other posters' mental health?

It's hard enough to read the news without (it seems) every thread quickly become some combination of personal attack and/or national politics scree (on both sides).

How about we agree that threads that wish to make political points, or contain personal attacks be labeled -- sort of like -- "BROADWAY GROSSES -- personal attacks thread". or "BROADWAY GROSSES -- political opinions thread'. That way those who want to read those and post commennts of that nature can find them easily, and the few(?) of us who would like to discuss theater and critic reviews and Broadway news wont need to scroll through dozens of other (more and more predictable) tangential comments.

Please consider it. Thank you"

Unfortunately, any discussion of the economics of Broadway (or any economics really) will be inherently political. If you just want numbers, there's a page for that, but once people begin discussing the struggles of shows and of the industry as a whole, which are natural extensions of those numbers, then compensation, landlords, unions, worker exploitation, resources, income inequality, etc. are all going to come into play. Politics are inevitable.

Rob,

Will the Broadway grosses no longer be posted in the Broadway Chat?