Broadway Grosses delayed? - Page 2

[MB124]

Posted: 9/24/25 at 3:21pm

binau said: "‘Worth’ according to whom?"

………..?

[DrMonicaDeMoneco]

Posted: 9/24/25 at 3:30pm

Where the heck are the grosses?!!? 

[Rob]

Posted: 9/24/25 at 3:34pm

The grosses will be out tomorrow, due to the Jewish holiday ... and as is typical from my memory and experience to past years. 

[merle57]

Posted: 9/24/25 at 4:40pm

Thank you for the explanation.

I wish the moderators of the website or the Broadway league had released that information about a three day delay in advance. Surprising in some respects since the shows keep running despite the Jewish holiday. Ah, well, a bit of New York cultural tradition. That's why we love New York theatre. 

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 9/24/25 at 5:40pm

merle57 said: "Thank you for the explanation.

I wish the moderators of the website or the Broadway league had released that information about a three day delay in advance. Surprising in some respects since the shows keep running despite the Jewish holiday. Ah, well, a bit of New York cultural tradition. That's why we love New York theatre."

Shows keep running despite Christmas too. What’s your point? 

[EDSOSLO858]

Posted: 9/25/25 at 11:53am

They're finally out on the League's website!

Rob should chime in here any minute.

 

[ACL2006]

Posted: 9/25/25 at 1:29pm

EDSOSLO858 said: "They're finally out on the League's website!

Rob should chime in here any minute.

"

They're not showing up correctly 

[Patti LuPone FANatic]

Posted: 9/25/25 at 1:51pm

I see the Broadway Grosses post for Sept. 21...but it's emply?

[The Bandstand]

Posted: 9/25/25 at 1:54pm

Cabaret didn’t end on a high note.  I’m happy to see Moulin Rogue making over a million bucks again. Godot is doing well

[MemorableUserName]

Posted: 9/25/25 at 2:02pm

Not sure why the other thread won't load, but the grosses are updated for 9/21 on the page:

https://www.broadwayworld.com/grosses.cfm

[MemorableUserName]

Posted: 9/25/25 at 2:03pm

Deadline: https://deadline.com/2025/09/broadway-box-office-godot-keanu-reeves-alex-winter-1236553254/

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 9/25/25 at 2:06pm

Oh, Mary continues to amaze me! 

[uncageg]

Posted: 9/25/25 at 2:55pm

The grosses thread along with a few others won't open for me on any of my devices.

[EDSOSLO858]

Posted: 9/25/25 at 3:13pm

I commented on the other thread before it was deleted:

 

This was the second and final week of Broadway Week; always nice to see the 2-for-1 initiative result in good percent capacities, for the most part. Expect the numbers to drop now until Indigenous Peoples' Day weekend comes around. 

Happy trails to CABARET and Brody Grant over at THE OUTSIDERS.

Reminder that ART had the week off after its opening night. 

 

[Kad]

Posted: 9/25/25 at 5:59pm

A friend’s husband turned down the opportunity to invest in the Broadway transfer of Oh Mary, a decision I assume he has come to deeply regret. 

[Menken Fan]

Posted: 9/25/25 at 7:47pm

Kad said: "A friend’s husband turned down the opportunity to invest in the Broadway transfer of Oh Mary, a decision I assume he has come to deeply regret."

I took a pass on investing on this also. Having seen and loved it off-Broadway, i thought there’s no way it would be successful on Broadway. 🤦‍♂️

[binau]

Posted: 9/26/25 at 2:50am

Ensemble1698878795 said: "binau said: "‘Worth’ according to whom?"

Are you just a A-hole or that dense? Worth to the actors who slaved their voices and bodies 8 shows a week to give you something to talk about on this board."

You think they are only the two options? That there could not POSSIBLY be any other discussion? I can elaborate for you if need be (surprised it was so trigging). 

You made the claim that Broadway actors are 'underpaid'. Now, they very well could be. However, In the context of Broadway right now, which is a failing industry because of the very high costs (as we recently discussed from that NYTimes article), if someone is to make the claim they are 'underpaid' and should be paid more I think it is not unreasonable that there is a clear explanation of how you have come to this conclusion. 

There is as a general rule, no more money to share*. And NYC theatre actors are the highest paid theatre actors in the world - to the envy of many including London actors .

* I agree with suggestions here that we almost need to separate to cash cow enterprises such as Hamilton and Wicked from the new show startups. There is probably more money to share with these cash cows, but no money to share for most shows.

So I'm simply asking if you are suggesting that Actors are not being paid their 'worth', who is determining this and how? For example, is it that actors who are bringing in box office not being fairly rewarded for this? (unlikely because star salaries exist for this reason).

Is it the case that unlike other kinds of workforces on Broadway actor median salaries are particularly low?

Is it the general sentiment of the actors themselves being underpaid, how have they also come to this conclusion? (e.g. is it that they can get paid more doing non-Broadway theatre acting so clearly their market value is higher).

Is there anything feeding into this besides a general desire everyone has to get paid more? 

I would also ask a couple follow up question, do you think there is a risk that if we continue to increase the costs to mount and run a Broadway show that this might continue to make things even harder, meaning less longevity of jobs?

Are there any other workforces on Broadway that are also underpaid or is it just actors?

Are there any groups that are overpaid and could ever reasonably reduce their pay, if so whom? Are there roles type or volume (e.g. backstage) on Broadway that we don't need? Is there any way to offset increases in costs? 

How can we make sure that we can afford all of this so we don't destroy this industry? 

At the same time I think you'd suggest that we, the public, should not pay even more money for theatre tickets which is the other obvious solution to this problem. Or are you personally willing to pay more? Do you personally buy full price tickets all the time to make sure shows have enough revenue to pay their staff and make a profit?

Updated On: 9/26/25 at 02:50 AM

[MemorableUserName]

Posted: 9/26/25 at 10:38am

Is anyone at all surprised the increasingly (or just more openly) right-wing binau is now this anti-worker? That post was something Boris would have written.

Pitting the audience ("oooh...theater is so expensive already! Do you want to pay more because of greedy actors?" ) against the workers who aren't the ones benefiting from those high prices in order to leave the theater owners (who are the ones getting most of the money, and will only want more as private equity gets more involved) off the hook--typically conservative tactics.

Updated On: 9/26/25 at 10:38 AM

[GiantsInTheSky2]

Posted: 9/26/25 at 10:59am

“Is anyone at all surprised the increasingly (or just more openly) right-wing binau is now this anti-worker? That post was something Boris would have written.”

The only people surprised are users who joined this week. 

[binau]

Posted: 9/26/25 at 11:03am

Asking who is going to pay for this is not being 'anti-worker' it's being sensible because when the money runs out, there is no work and THAT is certainly anti-worker. Did you read the NYTimes article? Are you proposing that the already unsustainable costs increase further or are you suggesting that the costs can be saved elsewhere (and if so, how?). 

Updated On: 9/26/25 at 11:03 AM

[Jarethan]

Posted: 9/26/25 at 2:48pm

GiantsInTheSky2 said: "“Is anyone at all surprised the increasingly (or just more openly) right-wing binau is now this anti-worker? That post was something Boris would have written.”

The only people surprised are users who joined this week."

Are you kidding? 

First, Binau seems to me to be one of the more consistently pleasant posters on this board.  Because Binau is suggesting that some pragmatism is required, does not make Binau a right-wing conservative...just a pragmatist.

Second: That NYT article, while not surprising, was sobering.  Over the past 60 (ugh!) years, I have seen ticket prices for the best orchestra seats for a performance multiply literally by 50 times, literally 100 times for matinees (and even more for big stars and Leslie Odom Jr, specifically in Hamilton).  While there are people who will happily pay those prices, more and more people are being priced out.  With production costs and weekly nuts growing constantly, it appears that musicals have to run to pretty full houses for a couple of years at undiscounted prices to break-even. Sixty years ago, something was wrong if a hit show did not return its investment in 6 - 8 months.

I still don't understand why London can open a show like the recent Evita for 10 weeks and actually make a little money.  I think it would behoove some theatre group to get a better understanding of why that is the case, as way of understanding what NY can possibly do to manage costs more effectively.  There will likely be no silver bullets, but there may be some hard realities (I personally believe that some of the unions are out of control -- how can a three character play with limited / no scenery cause millions of dollars to produce?).

I can here people saying 'get over it, old man', but the point of the NYT article is that we may be reaching a breaking point where people are not going to be willing to invest because the probability of losing everything is higher than ever.  (Note: it was not a lot rosier decades ago...just a lot less money was involved, even fully adjusting for inflation.

[SteveSanders]

Posted: 9/26/25 at 3:01pm

I feel like info on London theatre finances has appeared in threads from time to time. 

If I recall correctly, it comes down to the basics of lower overall costs:  healthcare, salaries, rents, production expenses, and of course, public funding for some theaters.

[MemorableUserName]

Posted: 9/26/25 at 3:03pm

Jarethan said: "First, Binau seems to me to be one of the more consistently pleasant posters on this board. Because Binau is suggesting that some pragmatism is required, does not make Binau a right-wing conservative...just a pragmatist.
 

Binau has spent the past year screeching about cancel culture, evil libruls, helpless martyr Ch**lie K*rk, the intolerant left, and other right-wing causes. They are very much a right-wing conservative, and if you find them consistently pleasant you must not    be familiar        with their work (though much of it was in threads that were either deleted or bumped to the Off-topic board). 

Updated On: 9/26/25 at 03:03 PM

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 9/26/25 at 3:14pm