Company Commentary Thread — Page 15
Posted: 2/25/08 at 10:56am
The choice may have been mistaken, The choosing was not... "Every day has the potential to be the greatest day of your life." - Lin-Manuel Miranda
Posted: 2/27/08 at 11:15am
Again... ALL hearsay for me. Not my own opinion at all, but it didn't set me up to get excited about seeing it at all. Still, I recorded it on my DVR and thought, "well, I'll get around to watching it one day."
Then I got a call from my dad, and we were talking away about this and that, and he said, "Hey, did you watch Company?" I told him not yet. He proceeded to tell me just how much he loved it. He wasn't familiar with the show, the story or the songs. My father was an avid theatre-goer in his day. A first-nighter in fact. He was there for the opening nights (as a kid or young adult) of Oklahoma!, Carousel, The King and I, A Streetcar Named Desire, and SO many others from the Golden Age. But we moved to Kansas in the summer of '66 and that pretty much ended by father's Broadway patronage. He's been back once or twice over the past 40 years, but that's it. Still, I greatly value his opinion of shows and theatre in general, so HELL, now I got excited about seeing Company with an open mind.
I loved it from start to finish. What may have been "low-key" and "low energy" in the theatre played BEAUTIFULLY on television. The acting and emotions were real, the characters fascinating, the pacing perfect (again for TV) and I was pretty much blown away by the entire thing. I loved the set, lighting, the staging, the camera work, the direction for television (I REALLY hope Lonny Price scores an Emmy nod for this), and I was surprised to find that I liked the orchestrations so much.
Bottom line: it all WORKED.
And then there's Raul. After his performance on the Tony's, my first exposure to his singing, I HATED it. He bleats like a goat, and has serious pitch problems. I couldn't imagine why the fuss?! He's only marginally good-looking at face value, but it's an "interesting" face. But watching him play Bobby, I was floored, drawn-in, and ultimately very moved by his acting and whole performance. He's still not a great singer, but he's a fantastic singing ACTOR. And I fell in love with him while watching this. (No, not REALLY, but hopefully you know what I mean). He became more and more attractive to me as the show went on. The brooding eyes, the reactions and connections and sometimes disconnections to the other characters. I wouldn't want to listen to an album of him sing "greatest hits" any more than I would Zero Mostel... but he is a true Theatre Star, and it's well-deserved. I can think of so many roles I'd like to see him do, but I also kept thinking he'd be so great in film or on a (good) TV series. His acting and his "look" are unique and very attractive and compelling.
So, I'm glad I took a chance on Company. It surprised me in just about every way it could. And in such wonderful ways!
blocked: logan2, Diamonds3, Hamilton22
Posted: 2/27/08 at 11:43am
Posted: 2/27/08 at 12:08pm
Emcee has already heard my thoughts, of course. :)
So anyhow, what surprised me was that I don't hate it. From the clips that made it look like it was a bunch of people in the Georgian room of the art museum doing some singspiel fundraiser and the album which I thought had some lovely harmonies but none of the character of the original cast, which I adore, I'm found it mostly enjoyable. I'd love some color in their costumes and I miss the fact that it's not really set in 1970 it's not so bad.
And actually, I thought "What Would We Do Without You?" was the first moment where I dug the concept.
I'm still not sure what to MAKE of it as a whole, I guess. Is it making the case that this whole thing was in his head?
One thing - and this is something that always confounded me from the original - isn't it weird that none of his friends knew one another? I guess with it being conceptually that's a sticking point to just gloss over, but I did find that very weird.
I'm also curious to know if we're supposed to assume this version is taking place in the 70s?
Posted: 2/27/08 at 12:12pm
And yeah, that's always been a little weird to me, too, about his friends. It's just been something I accepted, though, I guess. Or maybe they do now and he's just remembering/imagining a time when they didn't?
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Posted: 2/27/08 at 12:17pm
Posted: 2/27/08 at 12:40pm
Updated On: 2/27/08 at 12:40 PM
Posted: 2/27/08 at 3:12pm
Btw, if you go on YouTube and search for Raul Esaprza and/or Pushing Daisies, you can see his guest spots on that show. He works so well with the the atmosphere created, not to mention the quirkiness. :)
Okay, I've actually gone ahead and found a clip joining only his and Kristen Chenoweth's scenes, as they are a potential couple fans like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ126Ct8gbI
(Kristen's a regular on the show.)
Posted: 2/27/08 at 4:07pm
Posted: 2/27/08 at 4:28pm
Updated On: 2/27/08 at 04:28 PM
Posted: 2/27/08 at 5:05pm
Way to be harsh, though...
Posted: 2/27/08 at 5:11pm
Posted: 2/27/08 at 5:12pm
as amazing as it is, there are certain parts that I think can get a little boring or tend to drag on but nevertheless Raul Esparza kept me drawn in.
Cages or wings? Which do you prefer? Ask the birds. Fear or love, baby? Don't say the answer Actions speak louder than words. (Tick, Tick... BOOM!)
Posted: 2/27/08 at 5:14pm
Posted: 2/27/08 at 5:17pm
Don't care for Kristin and have never seen the show.
Thanks for the info!
*shrugs*
Updated On: 2/27/08 at 05:17 PM
Posted: 2/27/08 at 5:17pm
That's a possibility... because the bigger your circle of friends, there's a chance that not all of them may know each other.
Oops, nevermind, Emcee beat me to a response.
"Yes, the brutalities of progress are called revolutions. When they are over, men recognize that the human race has been harshly treated but it has moved forward." - Les Miserables
Updated On: 2/27/08 at 05:17 PM
Posted: 2/27/08 at 5:18pm
I'm fairly new to the show, so I may have no idea what I'm talking about.
Posted: 2/27/08 at 5:19pm
I'm glad to know he's getting TV work, and I hope he's a big success on the small and large screen!
Regarding Bobby's friends not knowing each other... did any of you record the Sondheim interview right after the PBS airing? He flat out says that it isn't clear whether or not they know each other, and that's completely intentional. He also says (and I'm paraphrasing a bit), so much of "Company" is vague. And all great drama arises out of ambiguity and vagueness. I'm not sure I totally agree with that, but I COMPLETELY get where he's coming from. It's the struggle for clarity and "cohesiveness," from the characters and their emotions and ideas... to the audiences perceptions of what they see... And I've been thinking a lot about those words since last night when I watched the show, and I listened to that interview. What a brilliant man.
I know, nothing new THERE, right?
blocked: logan2, Diamonds3, Hamilton22
Posted: 2/27/08 at 5:21pm
It's kind of like Our Town, in that sense.
And, as for Raul's success onscreen - he did have a small (but pitival role) in Find Me Guilty.
"Yes, the brutalities of progress are called revolutions. When they are over, men recognize that the human race has been harshly treated but it has moved forward." - Les Miserables
Updated On: 2/27/08 at 05:21 PM
Posted: 2/27/08 at 5:21pm
And as an aside, yay Alfredo.
Posted: 2/27/08 at 5:30pm
Nothing in Company confuses me. I'm not at odds with the characters their lack of interaction between the couples, the lack of a traditional linear plot. That's Mr. Sondheim, the puzzle-maker and puzzle-solver. His foundation in this show is rock solid, on its own terms.
If one or two couples had interacted with each other, then some of the other behavior might be confusing. He doesn't slip up though. He was also quick to point out in the interview that NONE of the songs arises organically out of the dialogue, as with most traditional musicals. The songs are inserted or "forced" into each of the scenes. They just START and END. That was also intentional, when they began working with George Furth's book.
What we have before us is a "concept musical." One of the first (if not THE first?) created for Broadway. The concept is clear, even if elements presented are vague.
It's CLEARLY vague!
I think that's what I'm trying to say.
I think.
I am!
Aren't I?
blocked: logan2, Diamonds3, Hamilton22
Posted: 2/27/08 at 5:36pm
I get what you're saying, anyway. And I agree; it's vague, but not confusing. And I think that's because it is so purposefully vague. The fact that it's intentional, and not due to a flaw in the writing, makes for a very intricate, deliberate vagueness. It's formulaic. It's decided how much information you're going to get when, and what you're going to have to figure out yourself. And because that's all decided, even though it is vague, there's just enough there and in the right places that it isn't confusing -- and further, enough that it WORKS.
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