Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:35am
I wonder what gives Dave the audacity to redefine what racism is
I wonder why even after I said "bye" I'm still acknowledging this troll
Updated On: 10/21/15 at 10:35 AM
Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:36am
SonofRobbieJ said: "Thanks to my cis, white male privilege, I think this thread is HILARIOUS.
But, my friends of color, how do you put up with this? HOW?"
Crawling into a hole and sleeping. And figuring out who to put on block.
Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:38am
LizzieCurry, as an Asian-American yourself, do you find it at all "flattering" when people use costume and makeup to pretend to be your race?
I certainly don't find blackface "flattering", but Dave thinks I should "let it go"
Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:44am
"people OF that race should be playing the roles"
And that works only one way, according to you? You are denying African American actors A LOT of work if you think that way.
I say, let's forget all of that prejudice and let anyone play anything.
Updated On: 10/21/15 at 10:44 AM
Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:45am
Showface, what's your answer on the 2 questions?
You are avoiding them.
Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:46am
I wonder if Dave realizes that everyone he is arguing against is for non-white actors in traditionally white roles that have nothing to do with race
I wonder why he doesn't recognize, however that there is no double standard when it comes to this because non-white performers have been and continue to be shoved aside
I wonder what goes on in that head...
Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:47am
Showface said: "I wonder what gives Dave the audacity to redefine what racism is
I wonder why even after I said "bye" I'm still acknowledging this troll"
Racism has always been the same. Making separations about races in your mind. Like you do.
So again:
1. Is it ok for a white actor to play the Meditteranean Ubaldo Piangi including Italian look and speech in Phantom?
Yes/No
2. Is it ok for a black actor to play the Meditteranean Ubaldo Piangi including Italian look and speech in Phantom?
Yes/No
As long as you don't answer both questions with "Yes", you are part of the problem and the basis of racism in the USA.
Updated On: 10/21/15 at 10:47 AM
Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:51am
I've never seen such a fixation on Ubaldo Piangi. I don't even think actors who've played him think as much about him!
Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:53am
Dave19 said: "Showface said: "I wonder what gives Dave the audacity to redefine what racism is
I wonder why even after I said "bye" I'm still acknowledging this troll"
Racism has always been the same. Making separations about races in your mind. Like you do.
So again:
1. Is it ok for a white actor to play the Meditteranean Ubaldo Piangi including Italian look and speech in Phantom?
Yes/No
2. Is it ok for a black actor to play the Meditteranean Ubaldo Piangi including Italian look and speech in Phantom?
Yes/No
As long as you don't answer both questions with "Yes", you are part of the problem and the basis of racism in the USA.
"
Dave clearly doesn't know what racism is lol
Your first question is stupid because Italian people are white, so...
And of course a black person could play Piangi
Lol, try harder
Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:54am
Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:55am
I want to think he's a troll, but other posters seem to live in a similar reality as him, so maybe it's both?
Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:56am
A sub race is not the same race. What is your measuring point in the size of the difference in color in order to treat people differently? Then I keep that in mind for my next replies.
Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:58am
Kad said: "living in a terrible alternate reality. "
So what's your reality? Keep on bringing up old subjects and denying african american actors the role of Ubaldo Piangi?
Great.
Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:58am
Dave19 said: "A sub race is not the same race. What is your measuring point in the size of the difference in color in order to treat people differently? Then I keep that in mind for my next replies.
"
You are hilarious omg
Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:59am
Showface said: "LizzieCurry, as an Asian-American yourself, do you find it at all "flattering" when people use costume and makeup to pretend to be your race? "
Interesting question.
I too wonder how lost, mad, upset and disabled Lizzie felt when she saw the cover Ellen in Miss saigon as a bar girl with a line around her eye.
Updated On: 10/21/15 at 10:59 AM
Posted: 10/21/15 at 11:04am
Posted: 10/21/15 at 11:05am
Lol, Dave19 STILL thinks that everyone is arguing against a black POTO character! Lol!
He's like an SNL character!
Posted: 10/21/15 at 11:07am
Kad said: "And who the **** cares who they cast as Piangi in Phantom? They could cast a toaster and it would make no difference. "
Now we are getting somewhere.
I agree. And there is no need to change the Italian background, look, make up, lines and accent of the role of course. As long as the toaster can play it.
Posted: 10/21/15 at 11:08am
Posted: 10/21/15 at 11:08am
"I wonder what gives Dave the audacity to redefine what racism is"
I was also wondering how long it took him on google to find that particular definition. Or if he made it up.
Posted: 10/21/15 at 11:10am
Dave19 said: "Kad said: "And who the **** cares who they cast as Piangi in Phantom? They could cast a toaster and it would make no difference. "
Now we are getting somewhere.
I agree. And there is no need to change the Italian background, look, make up, lines and accent of the role of course. As long as the toaster can play it.
"
Oh, please with this foolish "now we are getting somewhere" nonsense.
YOU still have yet to learn.
It is FINE to cast a non-white person as Piangi (who wether you care to admit it...is white) his character has nothing to with race.
Yet, you STILL believe that a non-black person can play Effie White. Smh.
Posted: 10/21/15 at 11:11am
Jane2 said: ""I wonder what gives Dave the audacity to redefine what racism is"
I was also wondering how long it took him on google to find that particular definition. Or if he made it up.
"
Common sense.
Posted: 10/21/15 at 11:47am
Wait wait wait wait wait.
I'm Italian. Does this mean I am 'of color'?????
Huzzah! Imma go run around Harlem screaming 'N*gga, please' and see how well that works out for me!
Posted: 10/21/15 at 11:53am
Showface said: "LizzieCurry, as an Asian-American yourself, do you find it at all "flattering" when people use costume and makeup to pretend to be your race?
I certainly don't find blackface "flattering", but Dave thinks I should "let it go""
Flatten your face with a frying pan, yes. But not flattering.
