Diversity on Broadway- Page 18

[Showface]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:35am

I wonder what gives Dave the audacity to redefine what racism is

I wonder why even after I said "bye" I'm still acknowledging this troll

Updated On: 10/21/15 at 10:35 AM

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:36am

SonofRobbieJ said: "Thanks to my cis, white male privilege, I think this thread is HILARIOUS.

 

 But, my friends of color, how do you put up with this?  HOW?"

 

Crawling into a hole and sleeping. And figuring out who to put on block.

[Showface]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:38am

LizzieCurry, as an Asian-American yourself, do you find it at all "flattering" when people use costume and makeup to pretend to be your race? 

I certainly don't find blackface "flattering", but Dave thinks I should "let it go"

[Dave19]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:44am

"people OF that race should be playing the roles"

 

And that works only one way, according to you? You are denying African American actors A LOT of work if you think that way.

I say, let's forget all of that prejudice and let anyone play anything.

Updated On: 10/21/15 at 10:44 AM

[Dave19]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:45am

Showface, what's your answer on the 2 questions?

You are avoiding them.

[Showface]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:46am

I wonder if Dave realizes that everyone he is arguing against is for non-white actors in traditionally white roles that have nothing to do with race

I wonder why he doesn't recognize, however that there is no double standard when it comes to this because non-white performers have been and continue to be shoved aside

I wonder what goes on in that head...

[Dave19]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:47am

Showface said: "I wonder what gives Dave the audacity to redefine what racism is

I wonder why even after I said "bye" I'm still acknowledging this troll"

 

Racism has always been the same. Making separations about races in your mind. Like you do.

 

So again:

1. Is it ok for a white actor to play the Meditteranean Ubaldo Piangi including Italian look and speech in Phantom? 

Yes/No

 

2. Is it ok for a black actor to play the Meditteranean Ubaldo Piangi including Italian look and speech in Phantom?

Yes/No

 

As long as you don't answer both questions with "Yes", you are part of the problem and the basis of racism in the USA.

 

Updated On: 10/21/15 at 10:47 AM

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:51am

I've never seen such a fixation on Ubaldo Piangi.  I don't even think actors who've played him think as much about him!

[Showface]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:53am

Dave19 said: "Showface said: "I wonder what gives Dave the audacity to redefine what racism is

 

I wonder why even after I said "bye" I'm still acknowledging this troll"

 

 

 

Racism has always been the same. Making separations about races in your mind. Like you do.

 

 

 

So again:

 

1. Is it ok for a white actor to play the Meditteranean Ubaldo Piangi including Italian look and speech in Phantom? 

 

Yes/No

 

 

 

2. Is it ok for a black actor to play the Meditteranean Ubaldo Piangi including Italian look and speech in Phantom?

 

Yes/No

 

 

 

As long as you don't answer both questions with "Yes", you are part of the problem and the basis of racism in the USA.

 

 

 

"

Dave clearly doesn't know what racism is lol

Your first question is stupid because Italian people are white, so...

And of course a black person could play Piangi

 

Lol, try harder 

[Kad]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:54am

Dave19 is the user who thinks Glee was too complex for most viewers to grasp and that Hugh Jackman isn't that recognizable of a movie star. His posting history is a litany of lunacy. There is no point in engaging him because he's either a troll or living in a terrible alternate reality.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:55am

I want to think he's a troll, but other posters seem to live in a similar reality as him, so maybe it's both?

[Dave19]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:56am

A sub race is not the same race. What is your measuring point in the size of the difference in color in order to treat people differently? Then I keep that in mind for my next replies.

[Dave19]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:58am

Kad said: "living in a terrible alternate reality. "

 

So what's your reality? Keep on bringing up old subjects and denying african american actors the role of Ubaldo Piangi?

 

Great.

 

[Showface]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:58am

Dave19 said: "A sub race is not the same race. What is your measuring point in the size of the difference in color in order to treat people differently? Then I keep that in mind for my next replies.

 

"

You are hilarious omg

 

[Dave19]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 10:59am

Showface said: "LizzieCurry, as an Asian-American yourself, do you find it at all "flattering" when people use costume and makeup to pretend to be your race? "

 

Interesting question.

I too wonder how lost, mad, upset and disabled Lizzie felt when she saw the cover Ellen in Miss saigon as a bar girl with a line around her eye.

 

Updated On: 10/21/15 at 10:59 AM

[Kad]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 11:04am

I bring up old subjects because they color exactly what kind of crazy you are.

And who the **** cares who they cast as Piangi in Phantom? They could cast a toaster and it would make no difference.

[Showface]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 11:05am

Lol, Dave19 STILL thinks that everyone is arguing against a black POTO character! Lol! 

He's like an SNL character!

[Dave19]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 11:07am

Kad said: "And who the **** cares who they cast as Piangi in Phantom? They could cast a toaster and it would make no difference. "

 

Now we are getting somewhere.

I agree. And there is no need to change the Italian background, look, make up, lines and accent of the role of course. As long as the toaster can play it.

 

[Kad]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 11:08am

I haven't even been following how Piangi, the least discussed character in the history of maybe anything, has come to dominate this thread.

[Jane2]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 11:08am

"I wonder what gives Dave the audacity to redefine what racism is"

 

I was also wondering how long it took him on google to find that particular definition. Or if he made it up.

[Showface]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 11:10am

Dave19 said: "Kad said: "And who the **** cares who they cast as Piangi in Phantom? They could cast a toaster and it would make no difference. "

 

 

 

Now we are getting somewhere.

 

I agree. And there is no need to change the Italian background, look, make up, lines and accent of the role of course. As long as the toaster can play it.

 

 

 

"

Oh, please with this foolish "now we are getting somewhere" nonsense.

YOU still have yet to learn.

It is FINE to cast a non-white person as Piangi (who wether you care to admit it...is white) his character has nothing to with race.

Yet, you STILL believe that a non-black person can play Effie White. Smh.

[Dave19]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 11:11am

Jane2 said: ""I wonder what gives Dave the audacity to redefine what racism is"

 

 

 

I was also wondering how long it took him on google to find that particular definition. Or if he made it up.

 

"

Common sense. 

[Jane2]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 11:43am

^ no

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 11:47am

Wait wait wait wait wait. 

 

I'm Italian.  Does this mean I am 'of color'?????

 

Huzzah!  Imma go run around Harlem screaming 'N*gga, please' and see how well that works out for me!

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 10/21/15 at 11:53am

Showface said: "LizzieCurry, as an Asian-American yourself, do you find it at all "flattering" when people use costume and makeup to pretend to be your race? 

I certainly don't find blackface "flattering", but Dave thinks I should "let it go""

 

Flatten your face with a frying pan, yes. But not flattering.