Faucci Says By Beginning of April, Everyone Could Get Vaccine

Jenn, it dates back to the horrifying Tuskegee experiments that went on for 40 years.

https://www.history.com/news/the-infamous-40-year-tuskegee-study

Many people I talk to frequently don't trust the government to help them and they feel abandoned by the health care system. Many people of color living in poor and urban neighborhoods also don't have doctors or healthcare facilities near their homes. They also lack transportation.

When you've never had to think about any of those things, it's really easy to think that everyone will be on board with this. But, that just isn't reality.

Updated On: 12/7/20 at 12:32 PM

uncageg said: "He also said that he feels the vaccinations will go through mid summer to early fall. I am assuming he gave it that time frame because of the time in between the two shots."

And then does it start all again when we need to get it again next winter? Sigh.

Tag said: "uncageg said: "He also said that he feels the vaccinations will go through mid summer to early fall. I am assuming he gave it that time frame because of the time in between the two shots."

And then does it start all again when we need to get it again next winter? Sigh."

Will it even stop for the next few years? I suspect that if all goes well with these vaccines, there will be those who get it and are fine and those who don't who will continue to spread it among those refusing to get it. So it could just continue on.

uncageg said: "I suspect that if all goes well with these vaccines, there will be those who get it and are fine and those who don't who will continue to spread it among those refusing to get it. So it could just continue on."

What the smart people are saying is that the resistance to the vaccine will ebb. If it is roughly 50% now, that number includes the hardcore anti-vaxxers and also the (larger, I think) scared (or otherwise influenced for the many reasons Kad lists). Once it has been demonstrated that it is safe across a broad spectrum, and once we have a government that isn't distrusted for good reason, the latter group will get vaccinated. The goal is not 100% and those who don't get vaccinated will become less epidemiologically important. And if it is true that the resistance is highest in minority communities, bear in mind that those are also the communities that have had covid in the highest proportion. And finally bear in mind that (depending on the source) in NYC between 20-40% of the population is already infected and, even though they should still get the vaccine, they are far less at risk. I don't know what the numbers are elsewhere but with the current torrent of infections, I think we will see a similar pattern in a lot of places.

We don't know how long protection from the vaccine will last - is it a few months, a year, etc? We don't know if it will prevent transmission to others. It won't be offered to kids under 18 until more testing is done. I don't believe it will be offered to pregnant women either. Perhaps people are aware of the lawsuits surrounding the anthrax vaccine for veterans. Ultimately, we don't know how many people will take the vaccine and how long any effectiveness will last. I believe I read masks and social distancing would still be required for some time after the vaccine, which would make theater economics unfeasible for somewhat longer. We don't know what Governor Cuomo will decide this spring/summer. Depending on what happens, perhaps he will allow theaters to open, and perhaps he won't.

Updated On: 12/7/20 at 02:25 PM

uncageg said: "So this is a question that has been swirling in my mind...

If theater is to "re-open" in June, will the Governor see to it that those in the theatre and entertainment field start getting vaccinatedin April so that they can have both shots by June? I think I heard there is something like a 3 week window after the second shot for it to fully take. I would suspect that it might be mandatory for people in the theatreto get vaccinated seeing the closeness backstage and front of house's close interaction with the public.

Your thoughts."

My guess is that there won't be an official policy that allows Broadway companies to get vaccinated before others, but that they will anyway. Just like when this started and it was very difficult to get tested and get the results back in a timely manner, many showed managed to do that for their casts. Unfairly, money and power get you to the front of the line in this country regardless of the actual policies.

itsjustmejonhotmailcom said: "uncageg said: "So this is a question that has been swirling in my mind...

If theater is to "re-open" in June, will the Governor see to it that those in the theatre and entertainment field start getting vaccinatedin April so that they can have both shots by June? I think I heard there is something like a 3 week window after the second shot for it to fully take. I would suspect that it might be mandatory for people in the theatreto get vaccinated seeing the closeness backstage and front of house's close interaction with the public.

Your thoughts."

My guess is that there won't be an official policy that allows Broadway companies to get vaccinated before others, but that they will anyway. Just like when this started and it was very difficult to get tested and get the results back in a timely manner, many showed managed to do that for their casts. Unfairly, money and power get you to the front of the line in this country regardless of the actual policies."



Interesting you say that about money and power. Thinking the same and it came to mind the other night while watching the news. I the sports segment they said the Knicks would be starting their season at MSG. A few thoughts went through my head. We are seeing the football league reporting cases and exposure left and right. They didn't do a bubble. Are they going to trust basketball players or are they somehow going to get vaccines ahead of the rest of us.

Kad, oh yeah. That is going to be a mess but I don't think there will be as much push back in the theatre community. Most people I know have been praying for the vaccine so they can get back to work and to their shows. But we will see when it is available.

I know of a few people in the hotel industry that have said they will not get the vaccine and don't want to wear masks. I know one person who just quit her job over a conspiracy theory.

I heard a doctor say today that he expects there will also be those "you first" people who will wait until a friend of family member gets it and waits to see if they have a bad reaction before they make a decision.

Updated On: 12/8/20 at 05:30 PM